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Bill Joy For New National CTO Post?

jddeluxe writes "In an article in today's NY Times, John Doerr of Kleiner-Perkins proffered up Bill Joy's name when queried by Barack Obama for a recommendation for the position of Chief Technology Officer of the Unites States which Obama has promised to create and that the country is overdue to have. I think that's a brilliant idea, and while you're at it, have the FCC report to him as well, why don't you?" If Bill is unavailable, I'll throw my hat in the ring, although I'm holding out for Secretary of Tubes.

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  1. vi by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Under Bill, vi will be the national standard. Yeah!!!

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  2. Or... by Stile+65 · · Score: 5, Funny
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  3. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While Stallman would make an excellent adviser to the National CTO, he's too much of a "Throw the baby out with the bathwater" kind of guy. While I agree with RMS most of the time, that kind of personality doesn't last long in US politics.

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  4. Isn't he the pessimist? by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I seem to recall Bill Joy having some decidedly pessimistic and even luddite attitudes towards future tech, but it's been so long since he's been in the news that I don't remember now what. Paranoid about nanotech, I think, for starters.

  5. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Believe in hoarding? You realise he made massive contributions to BSD, including the TCP/IP stack, which were released under a permissive license allowing anyone to use it?

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  6. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This thread points out the problem of anointing one person as CTO. Hate to say it but this is one of those things that might do better with a board, not a leader. That is to say that while there may be a judge, it's the jury that counts. Using one man is not enough, even the SCOTUS has nine. When it's important enough to do something, it's important enough to do it right. RMS should probably be on the jury, along with other notable technology evangelists.

  7. We will fight! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Under Bill, vi will be the national standard. Yeah!!!

    There will be a revolt! We, the Emacs revolutionary council, will take up arms and fight to the death!

    1. Re:We will fight! by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      isn't there a key board shortcut for that?

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    2. Re:We will fight! by rootofevil · · Score: 5, Funny

      i think its:

      ctrl-meta-shift-r alt-ctrl-p ctrl-' alt-meta-1 shift-2

      then recomplie without perl extensions.

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  8. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hear Hear...

    A board of 7. must have a mix of OSS and Closed source experts, as well as hardware experts.

    Experts... not some guy that was CTO for some corperation, I want people that are either leaders in IT technology, or people that made a difference.. Being able to Code or design is a requirement for the position. too many time I have seen CTO's that were promoted from the Sales department.

    Oh wait ,that will never happen... because it would be fair and balanced.

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  9. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Alomex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just don't see RMS doing that, he's too much of a man of principle.

    It goes beyond that. Certain people define themselves as opposition, as being not-the-man, and as such are uncomfortable in any position of authority, even if their principles were in no way being challenged.

    These people serve a valuable role in society, but it is not within the corridors of power.

  10. Re:Bill Joy's terrorist connection by chrb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You mean this?

    "I am no apologist for Kaczynski. His bombs killed three people during a 17-year terror campaign and wounded many others. One of his bombs gravely injured my friend David Gelernter, one of the most brilliant and visionary computer scientists of our time. Like many of my colleagues, I felt that I could easily have been the Unabomber's next target. Kaczynski's actions were murderous and, in my view, criminally insane. He is clearly a Luddite, but simply saying this does not dismiss his argument; as difficult as it is for me to acknowledge, I saw some merit in the reasoning in this single passage. I felt compelled to confront it."

    Bill Joy doesn't sound that out of line. If you're going to confront terrorists, you need to understand their doctrine and motivation so that you can discredit the entire philosophy, rather than just turn them into martyrs.

  11. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bill Joy is also the guy who keeps warning of the end of the world if we don't stop developing various technologies. He wrote a number of articles and did a bunch of interviews about the world turning to gray goo if we don't kill nanotech research, how computers and weapons will kill us all, etc.

    He started work on a self-sufficient, solar powered sailboat, presumably his form of a bomb shelter for the coming techpocolypse.

    Basically, he has turned in to a crazy old coot.

  12. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Lobster+Quadrille · · Score: 5, Funny

    He prefers to commune with the wild beastes. I'm pretty sure RMS is sasquatch.

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  13. Re:While we're at it by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 5, Funny

    My president (and Fox News) has taught me that it's more important that Americans "feel" secure than actually be secure. He just doesn't get that. You gotta listen to your gut on these things. He's too much of a thinker. Probably socialist, too.

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  14. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by DrgnDancer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But think about it, a really representative panel of that sort would really need someone representing, say, Microsoft, maybe Apple, maybe HP and/or Dell, and then a couple of FOSS guys. Imagine Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, RMS, and ESR on such a committee. Easily imagined. Now imagine anything getting done by this committee, ever... Not so easily imagined. When the closed source guys were not fighting over which of their personal pet technologies was best for a given purpose, they'd be in grid-lock as RMS and the FOSS guys try to block all proprietary anything. I'd be inclined to say that the closed source people should get 4 seats and the FOSS 3 seats: on the theory that it's more likely that at least on closed source advocate would side with FOSS on a given specific question than that the the FOSS guys will ever side with the closed source guys, and if all 4 cosed source guys agree with something it's likely to be a least a slightly open system.

    Still I think one guy, preferably fairly neutral and willing to work with all parties and being advised by a committee like you recommend, would be better. He might not always do what any one of us might want or hope he'd do, but a least something will get done.
     

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  15. A holistic technocracy by An+dochasac · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's amazing how narrowly focused even the "community" of slashdotters are. Open/Closed source software, indeed software or even computer technology is just a tiny fragment of the areas of science where, as a nation, we've lost the plot. Bill Joy is a computer visionary, but he also sees outside of the box. See some of his insights here In my opinion, the individual or committee needs to be broadminded enough to see the interrelationships of technologies and education. Here is my wish list:
    • Restore the technical advisory counsel that Reagan sacked in favor of lobbyists.
    • Balance the Reaganomic "fiscal" value of education with the real societal value of education so basic research on energy, health, economics... and other areas of science unlikely to help G.E.s stock price in the next 91 days, don't forever sit on the back burner while Europe, India, China and Japan leave us in the technological dark ages.
    • Fix the SEC rules so they don't punish companies which throw money into research where they payoff is more than 91 days in the future. It's telling that the current market cap value of the R&D heavy company that Bill Joy cofounded (Sun) is far less than the global value of the technology contributed by that company.
    • Treat universities as a long term societal investment, not a short term fiscal investments. Our great universities are decaying into trade-schools or country clubs... whilst falling behind our foreign counterparts.
    • Use a six-sigma approach to all aspects of government (including voting). If the quality level of our hospitals was as low as that of our election counting, 800 babies would go home to the wrong parents every day.
    • Tag all funded research with the funding organization so we can vet the tobacco, coal and other industry studies telling us that toxic waste is good for us.
    • Focus government funding on areas of science with a longer term societal and fiscal payoff. We shouldn't be spending $1 of our tax money funding something that is only going to make Pfizer stockholders happy next year. Pfizer should be funding that!
    • We have several equivalents to sputnik right now, global climate change, high oil prices,
    • Create a technological WPA/CCC to rebuild our infrastructures in a green, sustainable, efficient and cost effective way. The 800 billion going to banks would be much better used to rebuild our infrastructure.
    • Create an office of public science which explains scientific research and decisions to the public so we can all make more informed decisions about science.