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NYCL Responds to RIAA Accusations

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "You may recall that when the RIAA decided to run away with its tail between its legs in the long running Brooklyn case against a home health aide who has never used a computer, UMG v. Lindor, it decided to take some parting shots at the defendant and NewYorkCountryLawyer, asking for 'discovery sanctions,' and blaming them for its inability to prove its case. Today NYCL gave them his response, accusing the RIAA lawyers of persistent misstatements of fact (PDF) throughout their motion papers, and of flouting the rules and misstating the law (PDF). Although the RIAA's motion papers took a number of shots at NYCL's copyright law blog, 'Recording Industry vs. The People,' NYCL confined his response on that subject to a single footnote."

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  1. Way to go! by Fjandr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's nice to see someone like NYCL take such an in-your-face position against the RIAA's actions and come out on top.

    1. Re:Way to go! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, personally I hope you are successful enough that the word "Beckerman" strikes terror in the hearts of all RIAA members and their lawyers.

      Well I think they already don't like me much. As evidenced by them putting their own careers on the line by reaching out to lie about me as they did, in a futile attempt to besmirch my reputation.

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      Ray Beckerman +5 Insightful
  2. 'With Prejudice' by radimvice · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We here at Slashdot hope you get the RIAA to cover the bill for your hard work!

    If not, just post a few more stories here and the ad revenue should cover it.

  3. Re:Footnote by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Being stressed, bashed, scarred, and abused is part of life. Everyone has to deal with it. That happens whether you have the RIAA or not. Having a chance to watch the ones doing the abuse get their just results, if not necessarily humorous, is very satisfying.

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    Qxe4
  4. Can't Say This on Ray's Blog by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Any judge these days who buys into the RIAA's bullshit as an absolute moron and should be impeached immediately for a lack of reasoning ability and common sense. These cases, all based on illegal investigations and no valid legal foundation, along with outright lies in the testimony of their sole "expert" at the ex parte John Doe joined subpoena phase should be stopped at that moment.

    It is more than well known that the RIAA method is highly flawed and they have often demanded subscriber information for IP addresses that never existed in the ISP's log. Those are easy to filter out. The real damage comes when the IP address supplied is wrong, but valid to another user. The RIAA admits no error in their procedures and pursues many innocent people.

    But the real blame is the idiot judges who seem incapable of understanding that the RIAA is using the court system in ways it was never intended to be used. It's the very same thing that Direct TV (may they rot in Hell) did only a few years earlier. These judges are apparently seduced that the RIAA members are losing billions of never proven dollars to filesharing and that somehow this must be redressed in trials that never seem to happen. I couldn't think less of the judges in too many of these cases, and am not alone in this regard.

    There, that felt great!

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    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  5. No FRCP 11(c)(2) motion? by Hierarch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    NYCL, I'm surprised. With all of the egregious conduct you're documented, I'm surprised you're just making a declaration in opposition rather than a motion of your own for sanctions under FRCP 11(c)(2). Is your reasoning something you can share with us, or shall we just watch the master in action? ;-)

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    --Somebody infect me with a .sig virus, I'm too lazy to write my own!
  6. Re:One man army? by Machtyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Many times attorneys like NYCL, also have to fight bad judges. There are those that don't know the law, have something against the defendant, plaintiff or attorney, or are activists on some subject. These judges are impossible to deal with and an attorney has tread lightly in the "judges" courtroom.

    I recently had my brother go through something like this where the law was completely in his favor on an adoption case, but the judge didn't like the birth mother and ruled for the birth father (who failed to obey the law), thus causing my brother to possibly forfeit custody of the baby. In my brother's case, he spent a lot of money to fight, then appeal and finally win. Being that my brother is, himself, an attorney, he's since moved out to Utah and will likely do some stuff in this area.

  7. Re:Third Person by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speaking of which: Why haven't we seen NYCL here for a while? Court gag order or something?

  8. My opinion of laywers by jonaskoelker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's a guy who has single handedly changed my opinion of lawyers.

    While he certainly is the prime example of fighting the good fight, and looks at bit lonesome, I wouldn't overlook the work of Eben Moglen. He's an excellent public speaker, and I remember seeing a video interview ('ish thing) where he talks about his past as a techie.

    There's also Lawrence Lessig, who also shares some of the slashdot groupthink values. He's trying to change the world in a direction I'd like to see it go in. Maybe I want to go longer than him, but I still consider him a good guy and on my side.

    Then there are the lawyers working for the EFF, and those talking at hacker cons. The name Cindy Cohen springs to mind.

    Maybe they're not quite as much a superhero as Ray (he, not Cory, should be wearing a mask and cape :D), but they shouldn't be overlooked.

  9. Re:Footnote by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In case anyone is wondering what the footnote actually said, here it is on page 17 of umg_lindor_081110DeclarationRB.pdf.

    I decline to enter into a point-by-point rejoinder in defense of my modest foray into "blogging". Suffice it to say that (a) my law blog is irrelevant to the motion, (b) plaintiffs' counsel themselves rely upon the blog in the course of their legal work....(c) many in-house university counsels and student legal services offices refer their students to it ....... (d) many law schools and colleges use it in their curricula ..... (e) many reputable organizations have found the views expressed in it to be worthy of further in-depth consideration...... (f) it has been cited in law review articles.....(g) plaintiffs' counsel are not candid about their real problem with the blog, which is that its existence interferes with their tactic of attempting to conceal the litigation events and prior inconsistent statements they don't want others to know about, from judges, litigants, and law enforcement authorities

    Emphasis mine. He then goes on to give a specific example of why the RIAA hates his blog, basically because it exposes the stupid things they do to the world. Must be a fun job to use the law to destroy evil. Kind of like that old movie The Rainmaker. If I were Ray Beckerman, I would feel like I were in a movie.

    Well if (a) I was getting paid like Jack Nicholson and (b) my clients weren't being hounded by Dracula... it would be fun.

    But since it's the real world, I can't honestly say it's fun. To have to read their lies was very upsetting. Correcting each and every one was grueling. The fun part was getting done, and making short shrift of their massive deception.

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    Ray Beckerman +5 Insightful
  10. Re:Footnote by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I disagree that the cases are "funny". The recklessness expressed by the RIAA lawyers and the utter lack of common sense and decency in both professional and private conduct are disturbing. Please remember that the "accused" are scarred for life. Even if all wrongfully sued people get fully compensated, they still lose out because they have been stressed, bashed and abused.

    Very, very true. You were deservably modded to +5.

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    Ray Beckerman +5 Insightful
  11. Re:pettyness by kesuki · · Score: 1, Interesting

    hey well i had a polymorphic root kit wipe out most of my data, and the rest may have degraded do to lack of backup and maintenance.

    may have, it's an indeterminate state until i get around to checking it. so potentially my data is both lost and saved, quite a conundrum. at least the legal music i bought is fine, pressed CDs don't have dye wear issues.

    I've got most of garth brooks albums in my collection, on real pressed CDs, so i have fair use rights to his music, and most of my family have some garth brooks pressed Cds as well, granting them fair use. i've never been the fastest or the best, but at age 30 almost 31 i can still get half way up the ladder in some video games. sadly i start to stress fracture past level 25. but then i can do bizarre stuff, like plant mass trees of life. but as of right now, i'm trying to become more social. a challenge i'm not ready to face yet. so i prioritized helping my family in some interior redesign work. it was first in first out procedure anyways. and i saved my dad who is 60 from falling and hurting himself at least once. not to mention he had no way to do all the work he got accomplished alone. i can't wait forever to become more social. thankfully there have been some viral memory loss that is acceptable. and the walls inside my mind are keeping dangerous thoughts from spreading like rabbits on a super computer. not all viruses are bad.

    one thing i'm really having a hard time adjusting to, is how much data i have on movies and pop culture from the 1980's and 1970's that simply is no longer addressable. i would have thought that instead of carrying on in the same old fashion from the year 2000, people would have learned to use 4 8 or even 16 bit year stamps... 64 bit computers are mainstream, yet old code designed for embedded systems is still prevalent... is it because embedded systems are so much cheaper? or is it sheer laziness that the same old proven code is running with nobody behind the wheels knowing how the technology works?

    object oriented coding might have made programmers sloppy and careless. crippling computer viruses, that can live in invisible encrypted files the system won't overwrite... i mean i may only be able to hold a few simple thoughts in my head, but even so... i can still understand why society has created gated communities.

    ah well. the past is dead yet it lives on, in our memories. and some of us wish that perhaps some things could be taken back. but technology has been and always was just another word for slavery. a fancy, high tech word for it, but none the less slavery. perhaps that is why those on the top think only of their own lives and their own families.

    myself, i feel the pain and the loss, and sometimes it has driven me into great bouts of depression. and yet i feel helpless to save the little men who want to be free, who wish they could in fact be free. the best i can do is remember every hurt, and wear every scar with pride, and colocate as much data as i can inside the physical boundaries that limit me.

  12. Re:Fascism We Can Believe In! by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it should be every American's duty to spend at least one year living outside the country (preferably while they're adult enough to learn something). It might put a small dent in the ridiculously provincial attitude that a lot of Americans have.

  13. Re:due vs. undue stress by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sounds like your children will make excellent cannon fodder for the bullies in society when you finally release them from your protective custody.

  14. Re:Fascism We Can Believe In! by retchdog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If everyone's kids had even the same chance of winding up dead, we'd probably be more hesitant.

    And even if not (which is doubtful), as you say, it'll help with overpopulation.

    Win-win imho.

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    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  15. Re:due vs. undue stress by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My mother (special education teacher, now retired) had to "repair" a lot of kids who were home schooled. The parents invariably thought that they were teaching the kids enough "interpersonal skills", but it usually turned out that the parents themselves were socially defective & were incapable of judging whether their own kids had the proper skills to fit into society when "the time came".

    I don't know you & your wife well enough to tell whether your family is an exception to that pattern, but when you are deliberately choosing to isolate your kids from the same experiences that every other kid in society goes through, then you'd damn well be prepared to unemotionally & critically analyze whether the choices you are making for your kids will place them at a net disadvantage when you aren't around to manage their social relationships anymore.

  16. You forgot something by The+Breeze · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I liked your answer to the blog question, but didn't you leave something out?

    h) Plaintiff's counsel's objection to my blog is especially perplexing in light of Plaintiff's multi-million dollar advertising that seeks to convince the public that downloading a song is the moral equivalent of auto theft. Plaintiff also spends a great deal of money lobbying to influence Congress to pass ever more restrictive legislation. It is disturbing that Plaintiff's counsel can feel so threatened by a simple text-based blog that simply seeks to shed light on the actions of their respective member companies.