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Dean Kamen Combines Stirling Engine With Electric Car
Colin Smith writes "Dean Kamen, (inventor of the Segway) has combined a Stirling engine with a battery-powered electric vehicle based on the Ford Think to provide a fully decoupled electric hybrid car which can run on any fuel which can provide enough heat to run the Stirling generator. Think are also producing a purely battery 'Think City' car which is capable of 62mph and with a range of 126miles." Some stats on the Ford Think: Top speed, 55mph; 0-30, 6.5 seconds; Range, 60 miles on battery.
I've seen simple steam boiler engines that are more efficient and more versatile than a stirling engine. And something like the Green Steam engine can be small, compact and cheap and operate in a closed loop system. (I've only seen the Green built up to 10hp, but I think theoretically it should scale to a fairly large size due to the short stroke)
I think the important thing to realize is that people are out there trying new ideas and experimenting with old ideas.
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Ford Think: Top speed, 55mph; 0-30, 6.5 seconds; Range, 60 miles on battery.
0-60, never. :-(
The problem isn't the top speed being less than 60 mph. The problem is that as vehicles get close to top speed they tend to be less responsive to the accelerator.
With a top speed of 55 mph, this is relegated to situations where you know you will never end up on a highway... Heck, most cities have some highways in them (I know that Manhattan, New York, has a couple where you can legally go 50mph and sometimes see people hit 75mph).
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Actually stirling engine in theory has almost perfect efficiency, unfortunately in practice this is difficult to do. A large, as in huge compared to car engine, stirling engine is easier to make efficient and there are several applications where these are used. And if you run it in reverse you have a great heat pump, often used in cryocooling etc.
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20 years ago NASA had an automotive Stirling program. Read it and stuff it.
They converted a Chevy Celebrity and the results show that the highway gas mileage was increased from 40 to 58 mpg and the urban mileage from 26 to 33 mpg with no change in gross weight of the vehicle. This is NOT a hybrid - it is Stirling only.
By combining the efficiency of the Stirling with the get-up-and go of an electric this is a pretty good thing coming, and I've been waiting a while to see someone to produce it.
But here is the deal... this is a START. Better things are coming. There are other ways to hybridize a power train. Several really good ideas for recovering energy that is typically wasted in current vehicles will help, _more_ efficient engines help, better battery technology helps, more efficient solar cell technology helps, more efficient electric motors helps, and most of all a populace willing to accept smaller more efficient vehicles will help. It will take time to put it altogether and make it usable.
You should not be expecting a revolutionary vehicle or power train technology to come along next Tuesday at 2:37 p.m. It will take time. If instant success at the end goal of technology were possible we would not be following Moore's Law at all. We would simply have leap-frogged to the end-game technology. Let's not even go to that thought that alien technology would help if the government would release the information from Area 51. I'm quite happy that there are folk working diffidently to create things that will help us arrive at the end goal - very efficient modes of travel. Note that automobiles are not the only place that improvements can be made.
Safe and ridiculously cheap is what you will not have for a while yet. They will get there. There are private groups working on electric and hybrid cars as well as very cheap cars. The no one you speak of are the same people that think driving a hummer or huge pickup is ok since it only costs a few dollars more. Not everyone has those 'few dollars more' to waste.
Safety? Are motorcycles safe? If there were far fewer SUV's and other big vehicles on the road, safety issues change a bit. No vehicle is safe enough to drive head first into a concrete bridge upright at 70 MPH. Safety is a subjective word and ideal. If you want to drive around in a tank, I'm pretty sure that more than 50% of the populace is okay with you having to pay quite a bit extra for the privilege. Good luck with that.
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But the engine in a truck or bus is not fixed speed. It varies according to driving conditions, and there is a loss in efficiency due to the need to allow for the flexible load. If you use an engine merely for charging the battery then it can be a fixed speed, fixed load engine - I.e. it can run at peak efficiency whenever it is running, and the efficiency can be higher than a more flexible engine.
It is indeed the most efficient thermal engine we know of. Whoever said they're terrible in terms of efficiency is, for the most part, incorrect. They're difficult to implement because of the extremely tight tolerances needed to maintain such high efficiency, but you can achieve efficiencies at least as good as or better than a typical car engine (28% is usual for the car, 35-40% is easily achieved with a stirling engine, depending on the operating points).
The problem isn't that they're difficult to get up tospeed, but rather that they tend to operate at a constant speed. This is related to the pressure inside the engine, so the only way to vary its natural operating speed is to add or remove pressure from the chamber. It was this added system that drove the Ford's engine to failure because of the extreme complexity needed to control the speed.
This engine does make an ideal charger. I'm excited to see the results in production.
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Well those aren't very modern. there are far more modern designs that can reclaim heat in a closed loop system. Of course if I would love to own a Stanley Steamer, just from the pure novelty (and history!) of it.
Green Stream Engine is a newer design and with the right condensers is very practical and can be built compact enough to fit inside an electric vehicle to complement the electric drive train. One could just run the steam engine at a fixed rate to constantly recharge a battery system, so that overall the generators will produce enough power to maintain a constant charge on the system. But short bursts of power that deplete the system more quickly can be used for acceleration. I believe that is the point of a hybrid electric.
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Don't forget the water purifier. Kamen went on Colbert and showed off a system that can extract pure water out of essentially any stew, and is robust and cheap enough to use reliably and distribute throughout the the third world. His demonstration was pulling good water out of, I don't know, raw sewage or something, and he was drinking it.
When Colbert made his characteristic sarcastic remarks about not being able to see the point, Kamen responded that 50% of the deaths in the third world could be traced back to water-borne diseases. With this machine, he said, we could save the lives of millions of people per day.
Until that moment, I had thought that he was the self-promoter-yadda-yadda of the GP poster, but his concern and contemplation of the possibilities seemed genuine and sincere. I'm not going to buy a Segway any time soon, but man, but hats off to him if his inventions really do save lives.
FWIW, Colbert had a sip, too.
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