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Dead Parrot Sketch Is 1,600 Years Old

laejoh writes "Monty Python's 'Dead Parrot sketch' — which featured John Cleese — is some 1,600 years old. A classic scholar has proved the point, by unearthing a Greek version of the world-famous piece. A comedy duo called Hierocles and Philagrius told the original version, only rather than a parrot they used a slave. It concerns a man who complains to his friend that he was sold a slave who dies in his service. His companion replies: 'When he was with me, he never did any such thing!' The joke was discovered in a collection of 265 jokes called Philogelos: The Laugh Addict, which dates from the fourth century AD. Hierocles had gone to meet his maker, and Philagrius had certainly ceased to be, long before John Cleese and Michael Palin reinvented the yarn in 1969."

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  1. so that's what killed it by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Old age.

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    1. Re:so that's what killed it by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You think that story is funny, you should hear the one that Biggus Dickus told just before last weeks crucifiction! It was to die for...

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    2. Re:so that's what killed it by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

      No. The rest of us Fark on a continual basis.

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    3. Re:so that's what killed it by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      And what does John Cleese have to say about this?

      He'll probably laugh his ass off, and then sit down and write a mini-series about two hard up comedians, who resort to stealing common gags from the Classics, and make a fortune . . . and nobody knows that jokes are millenniums old.

      Imagine Manual trying to read his ancient Greek script . . .

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    4. Re:so that's what killed it by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't know what John Cleese has to say about it, but Jorge of Burgos sure seems pissed.

    5. Re:so that's what killed it by DittoBox · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't think that word means what you think it means...

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    6. Re:so that's what killed it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      You think that stowy is funny, you should heaw the one that Biggus Dickus told just befowe last weeks cwucifiction! It was to die fow...

      There, fixed that for you.

    7. Re:so that's what killed it by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Funny

      Er, yeah, whoops. Long week.

      Long, shitty week.

      I'll just go back and edit my post.

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  2. Never the same again by VinylRecords · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow those plagiarists...what next are you going to tell me that the Holy Grail movie was based on ancient stories as well? Or Life of Brian? Are you telling me that Jesus wasn't an original character?

    1. Re:Never the same again by LordEd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you telling me that Jesus wasn't an original character

      No, but he was nailed to the perch...

    2. Re:Never the same again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but Polly wasn't able to come back as a zombie 3 days later before being miracled into wine and crackers.

    3. Re:Never the same again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ahh blasphemy humor. It never gets old. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get my a keyboard that isn't swimming ing Coke.

    4. Re:Never the same again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yes, but Jesus eventually got back up and starting flying around again (up to Heaven, anyway).

      I guess that means he was just pining for the fjords all that time...

    5. Re:Never the same again by Cow+Jones · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but Polly wasn't able to come back as a zombie 3 days later before being miracled into wine and crackers.

      Sweet Zombie Jesus!

      /farnsworth

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  3. What's worse... by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's worse is that only only did they blatantly copy the Greeks parrot sketch, but they even copied (with some minor alterations) a humorous tale about a wandering preacher in The Life of Brian. Really, the Monty Python crew knew no shame.

  4. dead? by nblender · · Score: 5, Funny

    That joke's not dead... It's pining for the fjords...

  5. The Best of Hierocles and Philagrius by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You can read more of their jokes at Google Books.

    Seriously, I saw these guys in their prime on the "Ranting from Rome to Apulia" tour. Fucking hilarious stuff. They really took a turn for the worse when that pussy Constanine brought in Christianity, though. It was just never the same for comedians in the Empire with those holier-than-thou types in charge.

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  6. in soviet antiquity, by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    joke predates you!

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  7. You're no fun by fm6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just for that:

    Venn ist das nurnstuck git und slotermeyer? Ya! Beigerhund das oder die flipperwaldt gersput!

    1. Re:You're no fun by bunratty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Die flipperwaldt gersput? Bwahahahahahahahaha! Clunk!

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    2. Re:You're no fun by CaptainPatent · · Score: 4, Funny

      oh yeah well:

      Der ver three peanuts, valking down dah strassel, and von vas... assaulted...

      peanut.

      Take that!

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  8. Re:Classics, not just stuffy rhetoric or dull hist by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a Classics major as an undergrad, I'm always happy to see these kind of stories. There was some wicked humour in the ancient world that is still hilarious today, from the political jibes in the plays of Aristophanes to the obscenities of Petronius' Satyricon. It's a pity that most people would never think about reading them, because one tends to assume that old literary works are dry and serious.

    Nah. If this story has taught me anything, it's that if there's anything worth reading in those old sheepskins/tablets/papyrii, some modern comedian will steal it and repeat it, saving me the trouble of figuring out all the obscure cultural references from 3000 years ago.

    I'm kidding. I think.

  9. Re:Not the same joke by MaxwellEdison · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah yes, now that the joke is properly explained it may now be classified as extra humorous.

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  10. Re:Patented humor by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What if I told you the slave were nailed to a crucifix? That's kind of like a perch.

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  11. dead friend sketch by fermion · · Score: 3, Funny

    That is disappointing. It means the sketch where Eric brings Kenny back to the friend store to complain that he is dead is not even a original tribute. It is just a more direct rip off of the original work that the Pythons inadvertently ripped off from. Will the inhumanity never end!

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  12. Re:Patented humor by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, but was the slave nailed to the perch too?

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  13. What Killed the Slave...? by penguin_dance · · Score: 5, Funny

    He read the World's Funniest Joke of course!

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  14. Re:Not the same joke by Cornwallis · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean posthum[or]ous

  15. No it isn't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh wait, wrong sketch.

  16. Re:Classics, not just stuffy rhetoric or dull hist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    HUGE masochist.

    The whole whipping, forced labour(carrying his cross), crown of thorns, getting stabbed with a spear, nailed to the cross and then being heaped with public ridicule was planned.

    y'know the whole religious ecstasy thing? Self flagellants in ye olden times? Yes. You can come closer to Christ when you're whipping yourself. *cough*

    Of course, they were supposed to come and take him down again after a while, not leave him there on the cross. Stupid careless tops =\ You don't leave your bottom unattended when they're in bondage. Just asking for trouble.

  17. Re:Not the same joke by avandesande · · Score: 2, Funny

    The part that ties them together:

    "And now time for something completely different!"

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  18. Related Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    In related news, the RIAA is suing John Cleese for copyright infringement on behalf of the estates of Hierocles and Philagrius.

  19. New sketch by Yetihehe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Customer: I want my money back, this joke is old!
    Salesman: Well, it wasn't when I have told you it.
    Customer: It was, greeks were telling it 1600 years ago!
    Salesman: I won't give your money back then, warranty has expired long ago!

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  20. Re:Classics, not just stuffy rhetoric or dull hist by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like inhaling farts and sleeping with corpses, it is an acquired taste.

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  21. Re:Thanks for the link by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blank Reg: This is a network linker. It's a bit out of your league, idn'it, Paula?
    Paula: So, whatch'll you trade for it?
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    Paula: What's that?
    Blank Reg: It's a book!
    Paula: Well, what's that?
    Blank Reg: It's a non-volatile storage medium. It's very rare. You should 'ave one.
    Paula: Stuff it!

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  22. Re:Not the same joke by Lobster+Quadrille · · Score: 2, Funny

    That is because humor is transmitted through comedrons, known in quantum physics circles as the "Odd Particle". Any attempts to observe or analyze them will affect their paths, effectively negating them.

    I've also got a 'silly string'-based theory, but the bastards at Geneva won't let me touch their equipment to test my theories.

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  23. welcome to /. by ethicalBob · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow.. arguing over a python sketch...

    If there was EVER any doubt about slashdots denizens, this pretty much clarified the situation.

    Picard or Kirk, anyone?

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    1. Re:welcome to /. by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Wow.. arguing over a python sketch...

      Better than arguing over a python script, eh?

      Har-de-har-har

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  24. Re:Classics, not just stuffy rhetoric or dull hist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jesus, only somebody with complete lack of humour can find that funny.

  25. Re:Not the same joke by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2, Funny

    Some humor needs killin'.

  26. Re:Classics, not just stuffy rhetoric or dull hist by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this story has taught me anything, it's that if there's anything worth reading in those old sheepskins/tablets/papyrii, some modern comedian will steal it and repeat it, saving me the trouble of figuring out all the obscure cultural references from 3000 years ago.

    You'll be sorry when you hear Dane Cook's new routine on how the dudes at the BK Lounge always put too much garum in his meal of emmer loaves and saltpetered kale, brah. You'll be sorry!!!

  27. Re:Classics, not just stuffy rhetoric or dull hist by tzot · · Score: 2, Funny

    I had a professor like that in college, he was a Lutheran Minister and an archeology PhD. He made the Bible hysterical.

    I assume he was hard of hearing, because the Church ordered professors to "find a way to make the Bible historical".

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  28. Re:Not the same joke at all by DiegoBravo · · Score: 5, Funny

    >>They are just a bit similar in that one person owns something that is dead, and wants his money back.

    I just have my new laptop, Vista is now dead. I want my money back. Where is the joke?

  29. Re:Not the same joke at all by Gorobei · · Score: 2, Funny

    A lot of Monty Python is like that: the humor is in how a perfectly ordinary and unfunny event becomes an outrageous farce after something goes very wrong, because someone in the situation simply refuses to admit that anything is out of the ordinary.

    This is the core of all good theatre. Slapstick is easy, but everything else requires actors denying, then accepting, reality.

    Groundhog day would have sucked if BM had just immediately accepted his situation.
    The Terminator would have sucked if Sarah Connor initially believed Reese. Or the cops believed, etc.
    The entire Faulty Towers series.

    Heck, 80% of all jokes are about this: the puchline is always someone denying or explaining the reality of the situation. E.g.:

    "Bob, thank god you found me - robbers took everything I had, stripped me naked, and tied me to this tree!" Bob sez, while removing his pants: "well Vern, this just ain't your lucky day."