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Obama's Impending NASA Decisions

eldavojohn writes "From delaying Project Constellation to an additional $2 billion in funding, Space.com looks at some immediate decisions the President Elect will have to make once he takes office in January. The biggest one will be the shuttle plan: do we retire the shuttle fleet or keep it on for more missions? If it is retired, we would have to rely on another country to bring our astronauts into space between 2010 and 2015 as a new fleet is built. Will Obama hold true on his $2 billion pledge to NASA?"

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  1. First by Ifandbut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope Obama holds up to his $2 billion offer. I know there are other problems facing the USA but space exploration is not something we should ever stop.

    1. Re:First by electrosoccertux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Someone else made a good point about this Obama thing, that you can't just "push back" the date 5 years when you cut funding. Because after those 5 years, you can't just call up all the guys you laid off and say "hey we want you back!" and expect them to drop their job and reform the exact development team you had going before you did the budget cuts. These teams take 5-10 years to form and get on the ground running. You either keep up the funding or push the moon plans back 15 years. There is no 5.

    2. Re:First by scamper_22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      dude, I think you just described the problem in the entire high-tech/engineering world.

      No one knows what we do, so no one knows how much experience is valued.

      They will just post an ad
      NASA Aero-space engineer wanted.
      25 years experience designing Space capable vehicles.

      No takers?

      Oh damn... we have a skills shortage in America...

      - seen it happen to many times

  2. The bigger question... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and one which is related to, but transcends, politics, is:

    How can any grand initiative that takes longer than eight -- or four -- years to implement ever again be achieved?

  3. I expect him to be as keep his NASA pledge... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I expect him to be as keep his NASA pledge as much as he kept his stance against telecom immunity and his pledge not to exceed public financing limits.

    In other words, not at all.

    He's a politician. I've never known a politician to follow through with their campaign promises.

  4. Obama's Decision? by Rayeth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is any of this really up to Obama? Isn't it Congress that decides where money is spent? Pretty sure that I took Civics in 8th grade and the Executive branch doesn't control all the cash. Unless Bush has changed all that in the last 8 years?

  5. Re:I love the space program but ... by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Is it that hard to ask the russians or a private company to get your astronauts down?

    To get them down, as in from a crippled Shuttle? Yes, it is.

    A Shuttle crew is typically seven astronauts. Soyuz carries three. Launching with only a pilot, that's room for two rescued astronauts. To evacuate a Shuttle would need four Soyuz launches, in quick succession. And that's if and only if the Shuttle is in an orbit that the Russians can reach; Florida is a better launch site than Kazakhstan, receiving more of a boost from the Earth's rotation. And if the Russians can arrange for four rockets and four capsules to be ready to go before the Shuttle's air runs out. That's one hell of a tall order. Given a blank cheque, they might try to do it, but it would be such a rush job you'd likely end up with even more crippled spacecraft in orbit.

    As for private enterprise? No chance. No private enterprise has ever launched a person into orbit. SpaceShip One was a major achievement for them, but didn't even reach Alan Shepard levels of spaceflight; a Gagarin is far beyond them.

    This is why the last Hubble repair mission was a worry, and why a second orbiter was readied for launch if rescue were needed. If that Shuttle had taken Columbia-style damage on launch, it wouldn't have been safe to return to Earth, and it wouldn't have been able (from that orbit) to reach the space station either. The astronauts would have been be in deep trouble.

    If you mean could the government write a cheque to a private firm to build them a spacecraft, yes, they could. I'm not convinced, however, that a private contractor would be much better than NASA - the same political demands would be placed upon them, and the chief advantage of a free market, competition leading to efficiency gains and low cost, is lost in a market consisting of one customer who makes one colossal order every few decades. NASA contracts out the actual building to private enterprise anyway, firms like Boeing and Lockheed Martin and Morton Thiokol.

    And yes, they could buy Soyuz capsules as needed, and even engage the Russians to develop them an entire spaceflight system. That's what they did post-Columbia when the Shuttles were grounded. They'd probably get entirely acceptable results at a very low cost. US governments don't like to buy foreign hardware if they can avoid it, though - taxpayers don't like to see their money leaving the country. They prefer to distribute the pork to firms in crucial swing states.

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