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Digital Photos Give Away a Camera's Make and Model

holy_calamity writes "Engineers at Polytechnic University Brooklyn have discovered that digital snaps shorn of any metadata still reveal the make and model of camera used to take them. It is possible to work backwards from the relationships of neighboring pixel values in a shot to identify the model-specific demosaicing algorithm that combines red, green, and blue pixels on the sensor into color image pixels. Forensics teams are already licking their chops."

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  1. Raw images? by evanbd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, if I shoot in raw mode, and then postprocess in software to get a jpeg, the demosaicing signature should merely identify the software, right?

    Of course, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the distortion uniquely identifies the lens used...

  2. So What? by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So what if they can identify the make and model of camera. I own a D70. There are 300 billion d70 out there. Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.

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    1. Re:So What? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.

      That's not the purpose. Knowing the photo was taken with a D70 eliminates all the zillions of cameras out there that aren't D70s. It's like knowing that a bank robber is a 6' tall blue-eyed blond male.

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    2. Re:So What? by taustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Forensically, it's as useful as saying "this bullet came out of this model pistol." Not conclusive by itself, but one piece of a larger puzzle.

      99% of criminal investigation is eliminating who didn't do it, and this can be useful for that.

    3. Re:So What? by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So what if they can identify the make and model of camera. I own a D70. There are 300 billion d70 out there. Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.

      Its useful the same way knowing the car that raced away from the scene of the crime used a particular tire, with a particular wheelbase. Or that a bullet was fired from a particular make of gun.

      Neither will positively identify anyone, but if you were already a 'person of interest' in a long list of people peripherally related to a case that detail might put you on a MUCH shorter list if it comes up that you have that model. Plus its useful when they are asking a judge for a warrant. Judges really like specificity with warrants... A "We want to search his home and car for a Canon Powershot X"; he blogged here about buying a Canon Powershot X, he was caught on this surveillance tape leaving the scene carrying an indistinct object, the dimensions and shape of which are consistent with a Powershot X, and we know the photos in question were taken with a Canon Powershot X"... that's got a lot more weight than... "We want to search this guy for a digital camera, because a witness said he owns a camera, and he was caught on tape holding an indistinct smallish object which could be a camera, oh... and the photos we're interested were taken with a camera."

      A reasonable person would view the second as a complete fishing expedition, based on no evidence, practically everyone has a camera and he could have been holding anything on that tape. The first request is specific - the photos of interest were taken with that model, and there is reason to beleive the person HAS that particular model, and that he had it with him on the that tape. Sure it could be a coincidence, but a warrant for that particular camera if he has one to check it out, might not be unreasonable.

      Its also not unlikely that they can pair photos to a particular camera if they have both on hand due to micro-scrathes and other unique lens defects... the same way they can pair laser pritners to printed output.

  3. Re:Really... by afidel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Film can be identified down to the batch, MUCH more unique than a highly quality controlled part like a CMOS sensor.

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  4. Oh my! by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I better sell my Nikon D300. They'll be able to trace it back to me. Or one of the other gazillion people who also bought one. Hmm... on second thought...

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    1. Re:Oh my! by AgBullet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I better sell my Nikon D300. They'll be able to trace it back to me. Or one of the other gazillion people who also bought one. Hmm... on second thought...

      you're missing the point. there usually are other factors in play in any investigation. having only the camera make to go by is useless, but not so if you've managed to narrow - through other criteria - your suspect list down to 10.

    2. Re:Oh my! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or you could shoot RAW and then the camera doesn't do any demosaicing at all.

  5. Re:stretch? by trum4n · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Feed your RAW images to photoshop, then hit NTSC color mode, then compress to jpeg. All their secret information is gone forever. Only idiots would let this work. and oh yea, those idiots didn't delete the Meta-Data anyway, cause they dont even know what it is.

  6. Re:Meta data? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Of course someone who is stripping the exif data will never resize the image and run
    > some sharpening over the image just to cover their traces, right?

    Some will, some won't. Criminals are notoriously careless and stupid.

    > Yep, this one was taken by a Canon Powershot A510 of which only 5.7 million were sold.
    > We also know that this particular model was either sold in North America, Japan, Europe,
    > Africa, Australia, South East Asia and South America. That should narrow it down.

    Yes. Of the 18 initial suspects only two own that camera. Concentrate your investigation on them.

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  7. Re:Killjoy by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That isn't the conclusion that the author came to. If you compare http://www.luminous-landscape.com/images-85/h2.jpg and http://www.luminous-landscape.com/images-85/g10-comp.jpg there is definitely a different between the yellows and the depth of focus on the expensive camera is far better (compare the red leaves on the upper left).

    Depth of field isn't a question of better or worse, you know, it's just different. If you want to poke at that story, you might just point out that a the limited image size makes the comparison pointless. These days, cheap digital cameras make incredibly expensive pro cameras more useful for either flexibility or niche markets (like >13" prints). That doesn't mean professional cameras aren't worth it, just that they're not worth it for everything.

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  8. This just in... by fireman+sam · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cops didn't realize that most pictures posted on the interweb thing are usually post processed.

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  9. Re:stretch? by lysergic.acid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    or you could just use a camera with a Foveon X3 sensor. there's no demosaicing involved since it employs 3 vertically stacked photodiodes (red, green, blue) at each pixel sensor to capture color information.

    here is a diagram showing how a multijunction photosensor works. unlike bayer filter sensors, Foveon X3 sensors produce no color artifacts.

  10. Re:stretch? by Tinik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But then wouldn't the lack of demosaicing itself be the tell-tale sign that it was taken with a Foveon X3 sensor?

  11. Re:Killjoy by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Looking at the images at 100% scale and you can see a tremendous difference in the amount of noise in the backgrounds. That is mostly caused by the smaller size of the CCDs and the quality of the sensor itself. Plus, the higher end cameras have far better noise reduction software built in.

    In addition to noise, the small digitals show lots of other image degradation as compared to a dSLR. They lack sharpness and have issues with distortion, color accuracy and chromatic aberration. The ultimate source of all of those issues is the glass. You simply can't get the same level of quality out of a half-inch lens as out of series of two-inch lenses (assuming similar technology applied to both).

    I just shake my head at the ever-increasing megapixel numbers on compact digital cameras. I know they're great for marketing, but for the camera owners they do nothing but produce bigger files, with no better image quality than if they'd had a smaller pixel count. Once you get beyond the resolution of the glass, there's just no point in adding more pixels.

    I just read the Haselblad/Canon comparison, though, and I have to point out that the Canon G10 is not what most people think of when you say "cheap digital". It's not an SLR, but it's close, with larger, better glass than most P&S cameras and a larger sensor. 15MP is a bit much for those lenses and that sensor size, but it's not that crazy.

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  12. Rethink by techdojo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At first blush this struck me as similar to the printers that revealed a specific device by a faint set of dots printed on each piece of paper. On further thought, it occurs to me that the difference would be that the dot-tracking was shady where-as this is a triumph of statistical observation. The former being slimy and the latter sheer brilliance.

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  13. Re:stretch? by the_womble · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It does, but rather than narrowing it down to a particular model, it narrows it down to any digital SLR (and maybe other types) camera made by Sigma.

    Add to that the fact that reducing the image size will probably get rid of the evidence, using a raw image and demosaicing on a PC will tell you what software was used instead of what camera was used, there are a lot of limitations.

    On the other hand, most people do not know all this - then again, most people are unlikely to think of deleting the meta-data either.