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Most of Woolly Mammoth Genome Reconstructed

geekmansworld writes "From the Washington Post, 'An international team of scientists has reconstructed more than three-quarters of the genome of the woolly mammoth using DNA extracted from balls of hair, the first time this has been accomplished for an extinct species.' Who wants a pet mammoth?"

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  1. Not quite there yet by thermian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given that they have yet to work out how many chromosomes the woolly mammoth had, or which of the DNA features are genuine mutations, and which are artefacts caused by damage since the death of the creatures from whom DNA was extracted, there's a fair distance to go yet.

    Still, I don't doubt this is a seriously fun project to be working on. I'd love to get involved.

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    1. Re:Not quite there yet by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just download god's genome checker.

      [x] Automatically fix chromosome errors
      [x] Scan for and attempt to recover bad base pairs

    2. Re:Not quite there yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The mammoth mitochondrial genome was decoded a few years ago.

      Mito DNA is much easier to sequence from old samples due to the fact that for every cell which contains one copy of the nuclear genome, there are thousands of copies of the mitochondrial genome.

    3. Re:Not quite there yet by Alpha+Whisky · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your post advocates a

      (x) technical ( ) religious ( ) time travel

      approach to resurrecting extinct species. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws.)

      ( ) Possibility of creating mutant monsters
      ( ) We are defenceless against brute force attacks
      (x) People will not put up with giant stampy animals roaming about
      (x) The police will not put up with giant stampy animals roaming about
      ( ) Requires too much cooperation from organised religion
      (x) Requires immediate total cooperation from government regulators
      ( ) Time travel isn't possible
      ( ) Time travel into the past isn't possible without a wormhole which was (is) in the past already

      Specifically, your plan fails to account for

      (x) Laws expressly prohibiting it
      (x) Lack of centrally controlling authority for mad scientists
      (x) We haven't even sequenced the whole genome
      (x) Being sued by Michael Crichton's estate
      ( ) Asshats
      ( ) Jurisdictional problems
      ( ) Unpopularity of weird old animals
      ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird old animals
      ( ) Huge existing animals occupying the evolutionary niche of the old ones
      (x) Susceptibility of DNA to damage
      (x) We don't even know how many chromosomes it should have
      ( ) Unavailability of any living relatives to carry the foetus to term

      and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

      (x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
      been shown practical
      (x) Religions will argue about playing god
      (x) Pointlessness of an animal adapted for an ice age during a period of global warming
      ( ) What's dead should stay dead
      (x) There are better things to spend the money on

      Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

      (x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
      ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
      ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
      house down!

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  2. Mammoth hairballs? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

    And I thought cats were disgusting...

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    1. Re:Mammoth hairballs? by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 5, Funny

      Better than mammoth ball hairs.

    2. Re:Mammoth hairballs? by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just give me an elephant, a hot glue gun, and shitload of brown wigs and I'll recreate the wholly mammoth for a lot cheaper than these scientists.

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  3. Just fill in the remaining genes by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    with those from the Tasmanian Devil ala Jurassic Park. What could possibly go wrong?

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    1. Re:Just fill in the remaining genes by 3waygeek · · Score: 4, Informative

      the tasmanian devil is still alive and well

      I don't think "well" is the right word to describe the Tasmanian devil's status.

  4. This is huge! by wytten · · Score: 5, Funny

    It could be the solution of how how to maintain legacy systems in generations to come. They just need to start mapping the genes of a COBOL programmer.

  5. pricetag: $10 million, right now by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/science/20mammoth.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

    right NOW, we can do this

    apparently it would be tedious, but a number of technical hurdles have been overcome lately to the point where this is really conceivable to do, and the talk about doing it isnot theoretical, but practical

    1. most recent modern genome decoders don't care that the dna is shredded into pieces
    2. encapsulated in keratin (hair), the dna is not so tainted by bacterial dna like it is in bone
    3. a new technique allows modifying modern elephant dna 50,000 genomic sites at a time, rather than one by one, so the proper egg can be arrived at after a few generations of reconstruction, implanted in a female elephant, and voila

    this can be done, right NOW!

    amazing

    even more freaky: we can do the same, right now, with neanderthal!

    using chimpanzee as a starting point for ethical considerations, we can also, right NOW, bring a neanderthal back to life

    that's pretty freaky. these guys wouldn't be dumb. someone would have to explain to the guy that he is not the last of his species, he's an artifically reconstructed clone of a guy who died 50,000 years ago. no one of his kind exists anymore

    but we revived a wooly old friend of yours too. here's a spear, happy hunting

    just don't eat the dodo
    or the quagga
    or the irish elk
    or the auroch
    or the sabretooth though

    really really freaky and amazing

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  6. The only important question by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do they taste good??

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    1. Re:The only important question by Whiteox · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No. Mammoth meat probably smells and tastes like limburger cheese.

      University of Michigan paleontologist Daniel Fisher had a theory that early Americans of 10,000 years ago used frozen lakes as refrigerators to store mastodon and mammoth meat. He tested his theory when a friend's horse died of old age. Fisher dropped chunks of horse meat of up to 170 pounds below the ice in a nearby pond. He anchored some pieces to the bottom. Every week or so he cooked and chewed a piece of meat, and eventually swallowed each bite. The meat remained safe to eat well into the summer. The theory is that as the water warmed in the spring, lactobacilli (the bacteria found in yogurt & cheese) colonized the meat, rendering it inhospitable to other pathogens. So despite the smell and taste (similar to Limburger cheese), the meat remained safe to eat.
      http://www.foodreference.com/html/f-mammoth-meat.html

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  7. Re:When did they die out? by Comboman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. Mammoths became extinct about 10,000 years ago, though some scientists believe that there were still pockets of mammoth populations on isolated islands as late as 3500 years ago.

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  8. Re:When did they die out? by owlnation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are no stupid questions. But there are stupid places to ask them. Try elsewhere, for better sources of information.

    Really? Considering the amount of SEO spam that's corrupted Google search results, considering the cabals, corruption and low quality of most wikipedia results, and considering that many of the world's experts on most science and technology fields ARE regularly reading slashdot, then I seriously doubt there IS ANY better place to ask a science related question than on this site.

    Of course, the downside is that there are some grumpy, elitist pedants here.

  9. Re:Now that we maybe can make a mammoth by irtza · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think you understand. The internet and slashdot was an elaborate ploy by Nivens to get more fans. He planted the ideas for the internet a long time ago and nurtured it until the web was born. He then planted the idea to create a forum for nerds. Once this was done he waited for critical mass and posted this line. Now people like me who stopped reading fiction some time ago, will see this name and investigate on the very same internet! Its rather brilliant. The only thing is that if we comply and read, then he will no longer have a use for the internet and will likely have it taken down (his purpose being completed). To prevent the destruction of this invaluable tool, I will boycott reading any further.

    and with my first paranoid rant done, I am ready to start my day!

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  10. Re:Not to mention... by thepotoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The big achievement here is the defragmentation of all that DNA

    The folks at 454 Life Sciences made reconstructing a genome from lots of little pieces pretty simple by using an algorithm that looks for common fragments (ex AAGGCTTCTA and CTTCTATCTGG probably go together to form AAGGCTTCTATCTGG).

    They also pretty much pioneered modern sequencing techniques.

    The news here (IMHO) is that we've been able to read the genome of an extinct animal. That is an impressive achievement, a few BP errors notwithstanding. If we have multiple copies of the genome (multiple cells), we should be able to figure out what the correct sequence is (mutations are random, and no two cells will have the same mutations). Hair is not exactly the prime target for sequencing due to its exposure to UV light (UV light wreaks havoc on DNA), but with a little work we should be able to the actual sequence.

    So at the end of the day, the Nobel prize goes to the guy who can figure out how many chromosomes a mammoth had. I'd like to say "just use the number that elephants have" but 7 million years (last common ancester) is easily enough time for chromosome duplication to occur.

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  11. Re:Not to mention... by kmcarr · · Score: 5, Informative

    The folks at 454 Life Sciences made reconstructing a genome from lots of little pieces pretty simple by using an algorithm that looks for common fragments (ex AAGGCTTCTA and CTTCTATCTGG probably go together to form AAGGCTTCTATCTGG).

    Spoken like one who has never actually tried to assemble a genome sequence. Trust me, there is absolutely nothing simple about it. And while 454 Life Sciences (now a division of Roche Diagnostics) pioneered a new technology for generating raw DNA sequence data they did not pioneer the assembly process. Sequence assembly algorithms are a long and well studied problem.

    They also pretty much pioneered modern sequencing techniques.

    While 454 was first to the market with a next-generation sequencing platform they are currently in heavy competition with the Illumina/Solexa platform. And then there is Pacific Bioscience due to release a platform in 2010 which could eat both their lunches.