Fedora 10 Released

ekimd writes "Fedora 10, aka 'Cambridge,' was released today. Some of the major features include: 'wireless connection sharing enables ad hoc network sharing, better setup and use of printers through improved management tools, virtualization storage provisioning for local and remote connections now simplified, SecTool is a new security audit and intrusion detection system.' Versions of major software include: Gnome 2.24, Eclipse 3.4 and RPM 4.6. A features list can be found here." Reader Nate2 suggests LinuxFormat's detailed look at the new release, and adds a few more details about the software it contains: the release includes "a new graphical boot-up sequence, OpenOffice.org 3, many improvements to sound support via PulseAudio and other updates."

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RPM Fusion

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It's never been difficult to add Dag and Livna, but it's now even easier: http://rpmfusion.org/ I really liked the polish of Fedora 9, it was a huge step up from 8. Hopefully Fedora 10 continues in that direction.

Breaking the law is always easy

[betterunixthanunix]

The fun thing about using Ubuntu is that Canonical does not have any concerns about the laws of the United States of America. Red Hat does, because unlike Canonical, Red Hat is an American corporation. Red Hat cannot ship any software that could violate patent or copyright law, and many of the codecs in the non-free repositories do violate those laws. If you do not like the consequences of those laws, then:

1. Let your congressman know that, unless he at least attempts to undo those laws, you will stop voting for him.
2. Join the campaign to repeal those laws
3. Use free codecs and demand that people send you media that is free-libre

Re:Breaking the law is always easy

[Pros_n_Cons]

Dont bother writing your Congressman.

Fedora wouldn't care if its legal or not. They're doing it cause its not OSS.
People tend to think this is something Fedora wants to do but it isn't. They dont Want MP3 by default, they dont want closed drivers by default. You know why? they want to distribute a free OS and promote free software. Unless these technology's have gpl source code fedora doesn't care much. Just lump it into RPM fusion and be done with it. Its a perfect solution to me. Did you know on windows you used to have to go download winzip! say it isn't so! yes and winamp! It was terrible in the dark ages of the internet when people had to view websites and install applications. People can surely install an RPM fusion rpm to get 10,000 (#?) applications in one place. Trust me they're smart enough.

Why such a big deal over getting programs after installation? Isn't it worth it to ensure GPL software gets written instead of relying on closed stuff? If you're so OCD and NEED these applications by default you can just put the rpm URL in the server list during install and get your fix.

Re:They are using RPM 4.6.0 release candidate

[prefect42]

I think you hit it right on the head. Fedora can do this, because that's what it's for. It avoids getting trapped behind painful changes because of worries that it'll cause short term pain.

Fedora should be all about long term gain, and if RPM 4.6 is a little bit experimental, great. Let's get the bugs out in the open and sort it out.

It took until 11/08 to get better printer support?

[Anonymous Coward]

better setup and use of printers through improved management tools

Cutting edge, baby! (Why are standard components taking this long to get written?)

Re:But does it run on .... shit that does not work

[chammy]

I've always found yum to use a ridiculous amount of resources on my setups. Whenever I install something on my tiny P4 server it will drain so much memory that the computer can't do anything else at the same time. I had a copy of debian on it in the past and I could run apt upgrades and still work in another terminal just fine. Yum does have some pros over apt but they sure aren't speed and efficiency.

Different Audience

[maz2331]

Fedora and Ubuntu are aimed at different audiences and/or "market" segments. Ubuntu is a great "just works" distro, whereas Fedora is much nicer for tweakers.

Both have little things the other lacks, or work slightly differently in some ways.

I say use the one you prefer.

Re:I always look forward to new Fedora Core's

[PitaBred]

Try upgrading to the latest 9.04 alpha if you're not using it on a critical box. KDE4.1 has been much improved (might even be 4.2... dunno), but there are still lots of random broken packages and such.

That said, KDE4.1 is definitely the issue with Kubuntu. It's still not mature, though it is "stable".

Re:Xen slowly being discarded ?

[Anonymous Coward]

Xen as a dom0 is in fact losing favor in the Red Hat world. There are technologies being developed that will allow a KVM host to run Xen guests. It's called "xenner" http://kraxel.fedorapeople.org/xenner/ and is coming along nicely, but not super stable yet.

Virtualization is important to Red Hat, and given how much of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 was focused around virtualization, there is little doubt that existing deployments on Xen won't have a migration path to what RHEL 6 offers. Red Hat hedged their bets by using lib-virt as the api for everything, so that they could change the underlying virt technology without breaking software.

Re:Will it fix the most notorious Linux bug??

[beav007]

I think you've misspelled "Windows NT" as "Linux".

This bug actually applies to Win 9x, rather than to NT[1]. I'm led to believe that the reason is that MS used an int as a millisecond counter in VMM[2]. At 49.7* days, the int wraps, and Windows panics.

The bug was not discovered until 1999. Reportedly, that's how long it took for someone to convince Microsoft that they actually managed to keep Windows up for 49.7 days.

* Yes, the number is 49.7, not 47.9.

[1] Windows may crash after 49.7 days[3]
[2] Windows crash after 49.7 days, Automatically... Do you know?
[3] That's right: it's cited, bitches!

Re:2+GB rpm's?

[Chris Snook]

I seriously hope nobody is shipping RPMs with more than 2 GB of executable code, but many applications ship with gigabytes worth of templates, samples, artwork, models, benchmark data sets, maps, etc. Even if you break the contents of an installation DVD into functionally distinct subpackages, you can easily end up with a dozen libraries that are a few hundred KB, a few distinct applications that are tens of megabytes each, and few GB of application data that can't logically be split any further.