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Fedora 10 Released

ekimd writes "Fedora 10, aka 'Cambridge,' was released today. Some of the major features include: 'wireless connection sharing enables ad hoc network sharing, better setup and use of printers through improved management tools, virtualization storage provisioning for local and remote connections now simplified, SecTool is a new security audit and intrusion detection system.' Versions of major software include: Gnome 2.24, Eclipse 3.4 and RPM 4.6. A features list can be found here." Reader Nate2 suggests LinuxFormat's detailed look at the new release, and adds a few more details about the software it contains: the release includes "a new graphical boot-up sequence, OpenOffice.org 3, many improvements to sound support via PulseAudio and other updates."

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  1. But does it run on .... shit that does not work... by ACK!! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The improved sound support is welcome. I just feel that my previous experience with yum was that it was clunky on older hardware and a bit slow next to Synaptic and apt-get on the same machine. Slicking up the interfaces is nice and the inclusion of OpenOffice 3 is very cool though. Good luck Fedora maybe I will try them out instead of Ubuntu next time I decide to upgrade my OS.

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  2. The big question is. by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does it come with easy access to the "restricted" repositories?
    That is the thing that makes Ubuntu so easy. You just take a check mark off the evil restricted repositories and you can download all those evil codecs that let you play video on your Linux box.
    Oh and those evil closed source video drivers as well.

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    1. Re:The big question is. by guardia · · Score: 5, Informative

      RPM Fusion is getting pretty darn good http://rpmfusion.org/ Just one RPM to install manually, and you can get all the "evil" stuff very easily... plus, haven't tested it yet, but the new hooks in Totem should make the process pretty much automatic.

    2. Re:The big question is. by gzipped_tar · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can install the rpmfusion-nonfree repo's signing keys and update the binary blobs via yum. However RPMfusion is not included in the release by default and you'll have to do this by yourself.

      AFAIK distributing "evil" codecs are against Fedora's policy so they don't do that. But that doesn't prevent anyone else from doing it.

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    3. Re:The big question is. by mowall · · Score: 5, Informative

      Does it come with easy access to the "restricted" repositories?

      Well it's certainly easier now since all the "restricted" repositories are now in one place - RPM Fusion. So you just install the rpmfusion rpm and then you get access to all the goodies. Not too sure how this is presented GUI-wise though.

  3. Warning: I is a n00b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember having fun installing Fedora 9 on my PS3. I'd never used linux before (I know, I know, I'll hand in my geek card at the next meeting...) and I figured it'd be more interesting to get a distro NOT designed for the PS3 to run properly than one that was (Such as YDL).

    But for those "in the know", would this distro feature any changes/improvements with regards to the PS3? Or is it still "unofficially" supported and thus will be about the same?

  4. Breaking the law is always easy by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The fun thing about using Ubuntu is that Canonical does not have any concerns about the laws of the United States of America. Red Hat does, because unlike Canonical, Red Hat is an American corporation. Red Hat cannot ship any software that could violate patent or copyright law, and many of the codecs in the non-free repositories do violate those laws. If you do not like the consequences of those laws, then:
    1. Let your congressman know that, unless he at least attempts to undo those laws, you will stop voting for him.
    2. Join the campaign to repeal those laws
    3. Use free codecs and demand that people send you media that is free-libre
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    1. Re:Breaking the law is always easy by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe GP was referring to the fact that in the US, DVD playback software can't be shipped on a box without a license from the DVDCCA. Thank you so much for the DMCA, Congress.

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  5. Re:Enjoy the porn by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was hoping that by "porn" the AC parent meant "screenshots of the new OS." But that's not what AC meant: AC meant "porn." Whoever modded this NSFW link +1 Informative should never get mod points again.

  6. Re:They are using RPM 4.6.0 release candidate by prefect42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you hit it right on the head. Fedora can do this, because that's what it's for. It avoids getting trapped behind painful changes because of worries that it'll cause short term pain.

    Fedora should be all about long term gain, and if RPM 4.6 is a little bit experimental, great. Let's get the bugs out in the open and sort it out.

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  7. Re:Distro comparison? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just a little pet peeve, but it's just F10, not FC10. ie, Fedora 10, not Fedora Core 10. The "Core" was dropped quite a while ago.

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  8. Re:Will it fix the most notorious Linux bug?? by BoxRec · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your confused, there is no such bug in Linux and hasn't ever been (or at least since 1997 when I first used it). There is/was a Windows bug/feature in which uptime is stored as a DWORD so the maximum value can only be 4294967295 or 47.9 days. Maybe this causes some Windows applications to bring down the whole system ?

  9. Re:2+GB rpm's? by bubkus_jones · · Score: 5, Funny

    My package is at least that big.

    Oh come on, someone had to say it.

  10. Re:Will it fix the most notorious Linux bug?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is been a bug in the Linux kernel that makes computers reboot every 47.9 days. This bug has been around for nearly 15 years!

    I think you've misspelled "Windows NT" as "Linux".

    I don't think that Linux can claim to be ready for the desktop (nor the server for that matter) until its development process is streamlined. As it is, the development priorities are set at the whims of one person.

    I think you've misspelled "Windows" as "Linux".

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  11. Re:But does it run on .... shit that does not work by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 5, Informative
    How long ago was this "previous yum experience" the last several years have seen vast improvements in yum.

    Problem is when Fedora first jumped off everyone tried it then formed an opinion based on 5 years ago. Most of these opinions spider across slashdot by people who haven't installed fedora since F2. When i was running Fedora a simple yum update command would finish in about 3-5 seconds. I'm also using a p4/2gb.

    From the yum FAQ:
    How is the speed of yum compared to APT-RPM?

    yum automatically checks the repository every time you perform a command, except when run in shell mode, while APT only checks it when you run 'apt-get update' manually. This causes it to appear slower than it is. If you want yum to run from cache instead of checking the repositories, run 'yum -C '. See the man page for details.

    yum now uses sqlite for its back-end database by default. This results in an edge in speed over older versions of yum. Beginning with Fedora Core 4, yum contains significant improvements that make it faster and more capable than older versions.

    In general to posters. If you haven't installed an OS in 5 years would you mind not commenting on it unless you state when you used it. People out there get the impression nobody fixed yum when it was fixed 7-8 versions ago.

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  12. Re:Competitive Advantage? by jmyers · · Score: 4, Funny

    Use Ubuntu if you are lazy and like free beer
    Use Fedora if you like free beer and Free software
    Use FreeBSD if you like free beer and dont like GPL
    Use OSX if you like to flash $100 bills when you pay for your beer

  13. Re:Will it fix the most notorious Linux bug?? by norminator · · Score: 4, Funny

    Linux will never be ready for the desktop (or server) if you can't move it from one building to another without rebooting!

    Viva Vista!
    ;)

  14. Re:Will it fix the most notorious Linux bug?? by beav007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you've misspelled "Windows NT" as "Linux".

    This bug actually applies to Win 9x, rather than to NT[1]. I'm led to believe that the reason is that MS used an int as a millisecond counter in VMM[2]. At 49.7* days, the int wraps, and Windows panics.

    The bug was not discovered until 1999. Reportedly, that's how long it took for someone to convince Microsoft that they actually managed to keep Windows up for 49.7 days.

    * Yes, the number is 49.7, not 47.9.

    [1] Windows may crash after 49.7 days[3]
    [2] Windows crash after 49.7 days, Automatically... Do you know?
    [3] That's right: it's cited, bitches!