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Amazon Launches Public Data Sets To Spur Research

turnkeylinux writes "Amazon just launched its Public Data Sets service (home). The project encourages developers, researchers, universities, and businesses to upload large (non-confidential) data sets to Amazon — things like census data, genomes, etc. — and then let others integrate that data into their own AWS applications. AWS is hosting the public data sets at no charge for the community, and like all of AWS services, users pay only for the compute and storage they consume with their own applications. Data sets already available include various US Census databases, 3-D chemical structures provided by Indiana University, and an annotated form of the Human Genome from Ensembl."

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  1. Finally! by jornak · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I have somewhere I can store the index of my massive porn collection. Thanks, Amazon!

  2. Re:Privacy? by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is my understanding that this data was already obtainable in the first place.

    This is true. But the easier it is to obtain datasets like these, the easier it is for anyone to do data mining and correlate the public (presumably non-identified) datasets with any private data they do happen to have.

  3. Selling EC2 service? by bonyari · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This just looks like a way to sell there cloud computing services. They provide the free data and you provide the monthly service fee.

  4. Re:Privacy? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Informative

    The US Census Bureau charges to access much of their datasets.

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  5. Catch 22 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Note that on Amazon's website they say that you can only access the data if you're paying them to crunch numbers on their cloud computers.
    That is, you can't just download the data off their sites, which would be the nice thing to do.
    As such, this article is nothing more than a slashvertizement.

    1. Re:Catch 22 by dubl-u · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Note that on Amazon's website they say that you can only access the data if you're paying them to crunch numbers on their cloud computers.
      That is, you can't just download the data off their sites, which would be the nice thing to do.

      And you know what you can do with a cloud computer, my little rocket scientist? You can set up a frickin' web server. And then you can download anything your precious heart desires.

  6. Patent pending... by owlnation · · Score: 4, Funny

    Expect a new slew of Amazon patents...

    "1-Sick" -- Health Data
    "1-Mick" -- Irish Census Data
    "1-Dick" -- Porn Movies Database
    "1-Lick" -- Lesbian Porn Movies Database
    "1-Fick" -- German Porn Movie Database
    "1-Hick" -- The George W. Bush Presidential Library catalog.
    "1-Kick" -- Pharmaceutical Index
    "1-Nick" -- Crime Data
    "1-Prick" -- Copyright Law Legal database
    "1-Trick" -- List of iKea-nu Reeves Movies.
    "1-Tick" -- Camping Places Data set.
    "1-Brick" -- The Lego Catalog.
    "1-Thick" -- Obesity Index.

  7. Re:Check off privacy by johnsonav · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One more step to a non private world CHECK

    Privacy, as we have experienced in the last hundred years, is on its way out anyway. The sheer volume, immortality, and interconnection of, even publicly available, datasets inadvertently reveal information most of us would rather keep private. Much like how most people don't have a problem with beat cops regularly patrolling an area, but feel threatened by cameras monitoring, recording, analyzing, and storing information about the same public area.

    That said, its here to stay. The data's here as long as we use credit cards for most purchases, use I-Pass(or similar) toll paying systems, carry GPS enabled cell phones, and expect the police to protect us from 100% of terrorist and criminal bogeymen. We might as well get some private research done, rather than leave it all to the government and big business.

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  8. Re:Check off privacy by Chyeld · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The less privacy we have, the less we have to worry about our privacy. That sounds flip, and along the lines of "if you have nothing to hide..." but it isn't.

    We want privacy primarly due to shame.

    We have shame because we wear masks almost 100% of the time.

    We wear masks don't want people to realize who we 'really are' either mentally or phyically.

    We don't want people to really know us because we have been convinced to hold ourselves to standards that no one actually meets.

    We hold ourselves to these standards because everyone else is wearing masks and while we can tell ourselves that 'they are just like us', it's hard to grasp that cognatively without actual proof.

    If there were no privacy, no one could wear a mask. If no one were wearing a mask, we would realize that the standards we hold ourselves to are unrealistic. If we realize the standards we hold ourselves to are unrealisitic, we are freed from shame. If we are freed from shame, we no longer find privacy necessary.

  9. Re:Check off privacy by tylerni7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We (or at least some of us) also want privacy to prevent annoyances and for protection.

    I certainly don't want to have to answer to the government anytime I say the word "bomb" or "terrorist" on the telephone, in email, or in an IM.
    I also don't want some company complaining anytime they see me buy a product from one of their competitors.
    I also don't want to have everyone on the internet knowing my social security number, address, license plate number, or telephone number.

    That isn't because of "shame" that's because people can be assholes, and some people will abuse information. I don't care if people that I trust know these things, but I don't think shame or masks or whatever has anything to do with getting one's identity stolen, or having the government ensure you don't say anything bad about them.

    That said, I don't think this public dataset business really affects individual privacy. This is more a database of already public, but hard to find, data, that doesn't contain personally identifiable anything in it.
    Let's just hope they keep it that way.

  10. Sounds like "Give us data so we can charge you" by Morgaine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the uploaded data is not available for download, but is only available to AWS applications running on Amazon's (paid for) compute service, then Amazon deserves nothing but contempt and an "Up yours" for this.

    It seems that working for a living is out of fashion at Amazon. They expect people to supply them with resources so that they can charge them and others for their use. It's creative business bullshit, and not even remotely funny.

    Amazon, how about you PAY BACK for the privilege of having the datasets uploaded to you by hosting them freely for the Internet community, and only on the back of that you charge for local, higher-speed access by AWS applications? Or would that be too "fair" for an Amazon business practice?

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    1. Re:Sounds like "Give us data so we can charge you" by dubl-u · · Score: 4, Informative

      If the uploaded data is not available for download, but is only available to AWS applications running on Amazon's (paid for) compute service, then Amazon deserves nothing but contempt and an "Up yours" for this.

      Seriously? Or did somebody just put sand in your pancakes this morning?

      As an AWS user, I think this is great. It means I don't have to waste time and money copying over a public dataset. When I read about this I fired up a virtual Linux box, attached the census data as /dev/sdb, and spent a couple hours rummaging. Total cost: $0.70. If I had had to copy everything over first, it would have been $20 in bandwidth, plus a long time waiting for the 200 GB to transfer.

      You realize that these datasets are public, right? For the census one, you can already download it for free. Do you want Amazon to make it extra-super-free or something?

      I presume it's the same for the others. But if not, you should put your money where your very active mouth is. It would take maybe 15 minutes work to get an Amazon server up and running, attach all the public datasets, and set up a web server.

      I'm so very tired of people who say "somebody should do X!" but aren't willing to be that somebody.

  11. Re:Not the same by johnsonav · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Which is very different from a large society in which some people know everybody else's business.
    Even if this stuff is public, the time and money and knowledge necessary to use it will not be evenly distributed.

    Information has never been evenly distributed. In small communities it was the neighborhood gossip, the corner pharmacist, the village priest, or the county sheriff who knew everybody's business. The replacement of social capital with monetary capital is the only difference.

    Those small communities had, however, a fast-acting, closely monitored feedback system. If someone abused their position of power and trust, it was caught quickly and it was easy to remove them from the loop. A similar system is needed now, only on a national, or worldwide scale. I think the only way to accomplish this, without going back to a pre-computer society, is to make sure that as much information about the watchers is as publicly accessible as possible. Hopefully, the same spirit that makes the OSS community so vibrant and quick to act will transfer to this new domain.

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