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World's First 21Mbps EHSPA/HSPA+ Data "Call"
gadgetopia writes "Although data 'calls' on 21Mbps networks and equipment have been made in the labs and in demonstrations, Australia is the first place in the world where such a call has been made on a commercial, deployed 21Mbps eHSPA network, with a full commercial launch due early 2009."
...for bathrooms everywhere I go. I mean 21Mbps? That's crazy! "More porn in more places."
In theory HSDPA, the predecessor of HSPA+, provides 14.4Mbit/s, not that far off the data rates being advertised here. In practise it is virtually unuseable. Call me when HSPA+ is working at those data rates with a full customer base, though I doubt you will be able to because the network will be gridlocked.
...when only 1 user is on. Let's see some real world results. And since its coming from Australia, you won't be able to download anything as it will most likely be blocked.
3 in Scandinavia announced this long ago. The service is able to handle 21 MBps, but the terminals do not really exists yet. See, e.g., http://www.telecompaper.com/news/article.aspx?cid=648923
21Mbps will become 21Kbps once the government is done with it
> Although data 'calls' on 21Mbps networks and equipment have been made
> in the labs and in demonstrations, Australia is the first place in the
> world where such a call has been made
Contents of the call:
"Hello. [Censored by Australian Internet Censorship Agency] home and then [Censored by Australian Internet Censorship Agency] and he said [Censored by Australian Internet Censorship Agency]. Thanks"
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MFA to learn.
Perhaps the title could more accurately read "World's First 21Mbps EHSPA/HSPA+ Data "Network"", as 21 Mbps HSPA+ calls (which, though the summary downplays them, are really big breakthroughs) are "old news".
Yeah, it's good to see this technology taking root out there, but don't forget about the engineers who made the tech happen in the first place! (In fact, given that Telestra's HSPA+ is not yet an active commercial network, I'm wondering what makes this trial so different from the dozens of "laboratory calls" made so far?)
>> Standing on head makes smile of frown, but rest of face also upside down.
This is not true. Ericsson solution supports full 21M, NSN is bringing out their RBS year to support 14.4M
You're confusing the failure of an ISP with the failure of a technology.
HSDPA works fine on everyone else's network.
I ask because I have heard of faster speeds than the 21Mbps somewhere in Japan or Korea. What is in this for me anyway? I am just an ordinary slashdotter.
Your email attachments costs three-hundred-and-fifty-seven dollars, spank you.
Until Australia get affordable internet. It is pointless.
Uhm ... not to be a killjoy or anything. But was that perhaps supposed to be MBps? Because we've had commercial 20/20 (Mbps) FTTH in Slovenia for a few years now and it does in fact work at those speeds in real-life examples.
Hell, even the government owned telco began offering 20/20 this year, we've had up to 100/100 available from private companies since about 2005.
yeah, but the cable might reduce the mobility of your phone, not to mention the problems caused when you get on a train
Telstra are renowned for rolling out awesome networks and coupling them with the worst plans known to man. tiny quotas, and huge excess charges. in this case excess is charged at $250 per gigabyte, which at that speed you can consume in just over 6 minutes.
TIAEAE!
... what, 750 kbps unless you're standing right next to a tower/
Oh, you're not stuck, you're just unable to let go of the onion rings.
I didn't read that the network was unloaded. I think you will find that Telstra's Next G network does have traffic on it. Either that or they are spending a fortune on adds that aren't achieving anything.
So, when's this kind of crazy a55 speed going to make it's way down to the street? You know, when is grandma going to see wild speed when she's calling the grandkids? 1-2 years? More?
"2009" doesn't mean it makes it to grandma, at least in any affordable sense of the word. 1-2 years. Move along.
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I think an excellent use of such amazing technology would be to revive the use of Morse code, so we can inquire about the weather in Cairo.
Parent post inaccurate.
Optus is not a model 3G network, nor has its GSM
network that preceded it ever been. Posts from current and former Optus employees like this one exhibit this. Back when I was on them a few years back, GPRS latency was regularly in the 600-1000ms range with regular connection timeouts*. Switched to another network, and boom, down to 300ms. My understanding is Optus runs GSM calls at half-rate bandwidth as well.. Definitely noticeable if you answer if you answer an Optus GSM (not 3G) call from a landline.
Telstra's network looks far superior in operation. (Of course, they have also priced their 3G broadband options to keep hordes of users off the network unless they don't have a choice)
* The latency sucked so much that the Treo 600 I was using at the time often froze momentarily while surfing the web with Blazer or AvantGo. Didn't happen as much when I switched networks.
What is the point of such fast speeds when Telstra only gives a few hundred MB and charges 2.2c per KB (yes KILOBYTE!) when you go over your cap.
Shit, 1.5mbps is fast enough at home. Having a low speed stops me using my measly 25GB cap in 2 days.....
No, i'm not kidding - i haven't checked the rates for a few months, but mobile data rates here are in that sort of ballpark...
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
The 21Mbit/s number is pure grandstanding and PR puff. The Ericsson press release, of which TFA is basically a clueless rewrite, doesn't include the disclaimer since Ericsson isn't actually providing a service and so cannot be hauled before an Australian court for misrepresentation under the Trade Practises Act, like Telstra can.
Before 21mbps Connection...
Butthead: Hello Beavis, its Butthead calling how are you?
(15 minutes later)
Beavis: Hey Butthead whats up buddy? I'm doing great except, we have to wait for our messages to transfer for a while.
After 21mbps Connection...
Butthead: Hello Beavis, its Butthead calling How the hell are you doing?
(.01 seconds later)
Beavis: Hey Butthead whats up buddy? I'm doing wicked great man. This connection is freaking unbelievably lighting fast.
Now come on, don't be so smug you American folk. There would be at least a few people in the American government that are creaming their pants over the thought of implementing an American nationwide filtering system. I'm sure the same issues that Australia is facing at the moment will be faced by Americans in the near future too.
Yeah this 21Mbps is meaningless, you will never actually see that in real world usage.
I have an Optus mobile broadband thingie and I think its rated to 3.6Mbps which would be fine except the best I have seen it download at is maybe ~600Kbps, and that was an occasional spike. Average is closer to 40-50Kbps.
And thats in the middle of a capital city with reception of 99%. Who the fuck ever see's 3600Kbps, let alone 21000Kbps...its a joke!
$500/month? A thousand?
mate,
the cell the test calls were made on was a normal cell in the CBD taking normal call traffic, i was closeby at the time....sorry to pop that balloon.
Apparently the operator Tre provides 21 Mbit at Ericsson's headquarter in Stockholm. Not for commercial use yet though. (In swedish, sorry...) http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.198793/tres-rekordbredband--bara-pa-ericssons-kontor
New more speed just in time for the new more censored web.
Having to work for a living is the root of all evil.
...the only page that'd load for them was Google's cover.
Darn censors...
Operation Guillotine is in effect.