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IWF Backs Down On Wiki Censorship

jonbryce writes "The Internet Watch Foundation, guardians of the Great Firewall of Britain, have stopped censoring Wikipedia for hosting what they considered to be a child porn image. They had previously threatened to block Amazon for hosting the same image." Here is the IWF's statement, which credits the Streisand Effect for opening their eyes: "...in light of the length of time the image has existed and its wide availability, the decision has been taken to remove this webpage from our list. Any further reported instances of this image which are hosted abroad, will not be added to the list. ... IWF's overriding objective is to minimize the availability of indecent images of children on the internet, however, on this occasion our efforts have had the opposite effect."

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  1. Re:Whoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm rather surprised personally that they even admitted that it was their efforts that created the opposite effect rather than trying to label those talking about it as being "part of the problem" like most groups do for these kinds of issues.

  2. Good Grief by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    omeone better start blocking this bit of smut from that den of molesters at Wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Raffael_030.jpg

    Sick, I tell you, sick!

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  3. Still... by Alarindris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They still didn't admit it was wrong, they said their plan didn't work.
    They are also admitting that kiddie porn images can be copied and transferred all over the world with no effort.
    Unfortunately, I bet they still think it's possible to censor thoughts out of existence.

  4. Re:Be honest! by SkankinMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it's pretty tasteless, and probably was at the time too. However, I don't consider it child porn, otherwise I think the band would have not been allowed to release it and several people would have been arrested.

  5. I'm Relieved by Kenyai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This particular situation was so ridiculous, I'm glad they realized what fools they were making of themselves. I mean, if the image had been hurting anyone in any way at all, I would have a different opinion. But as we have heard, the girl in question has stated herself that she's fine with it, was fine with it back then, and her parents were fine with it back then. Plus the fact that it's been available since the 1970s, in my opinion, means that it is actually a culturally significant work of art. Etc. Censorship is such an old issue, you would think people would realize when these policing agencies are crossing the line.

    1. Re:I'm Relieved by rhizome · · Score: 4, Insightful

      you would think people would realize when these policing agencies are crossing the line.

      Unfortunately, your enthusiasm will fall flat when you learn that the policy still remains in effect and it's just this one case that has been corruptly allowed to remain. This is how they get their cake, eat it, and have the IWF legitimized. I imagine the meeting went something like "OK, if we give them this one, their complaints about the general policy will lose force."

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  6. I don't like the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag by erroneus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...not in this instance anyway. These people were effectively forced to see the light and had to defend its indefensible actions. Finding that they could not and that, as the streissand effect goes, causes more attention to the matter than they were seeking.

    I'm not sure what a better tag might be, but the image of cockroaches running away hiding from the light might be more apt in this case. These people seeking to censor too much find themselves in indefensible positions when light is shined on them.

  7. Kinda makes you wonder... by night_flyer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What else have they censored that dont have the "name recognition" like Wiki or Amazon?

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    1. Re:Kinda makes you wonder... by FourthAge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that ISPs should be required to notify us when pages are censored. This is a "you've been censored" page from Demon; but there's nothing equivalent from Be, Virgin, Sky and the rest.

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  8. You'd think... by Xest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that an internet organisation that's been around since 1996 would understand the internet and would've realised the storm that censoring Wikipedia would cause and the resultant effect.

    But frankly, to me there's a more important issue here- the IWF has accepted they're wrong which raises the question as to whether procedures need to be put in place to prevent mistakes happening again. The IWF is in a position of immense power and failures to perform their duties correctly need to have repercussions.

    There have been various conspiracy theories as to whether the IWF was testing the water in light of Britain's new extreme porn law which makes BDSM and such illegal and hence whether the IWF was seeing what the response would be if they were to start filtering this out- particularly as scenes that could be deemed to be extreme porn exist in many common and publicly accesible places. To filter extreme porn as they do child porn they'd most certainly have to go after a lot more mainstream sites, it would no longer be a case of simply filtering out underground sites that only a small minority of people who are already classed as criminals visit.

    Whatever the real aim of this was, whether it was simply a blunder or not, I hope for one thing- that the IWF now ensure they concentrate on what they're supposed to concentrate on, helping prevent child abuse and access to sites that really do gain money and so forth from such abuse and also that this has put to sleep any ideas of a power grab or increase in censorship to other, arguably harmless areas for the IWF.

  9. NOFX - Fuck The Kids by negRo_slim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but the reality is that IWF only wanted to protect children from the horrors of having to listen to anything released by the Scorpions.

    Than and all they had to do is make a press release, and garner worldwide attention. Some of it negative, but think of all the increased support by religious types. This was just an elaborate marketing ploy on their behalf that is sure to increase donations to their coffers while providing free media coverage over such a nonstarter of a band, issue and picture.

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  10. Re:not a "child porn" image by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why stop there?

    What about the disgusting child porn proudly features on Nirvana's Nevermind album, Led Zeppelin's Houses of the Holy, Blind Faith's self-titled album; also Van Halen's Balance album cover, The Coppertone Girl, and all the Family guy jokes about child sex and bestiality(Stewie: "I'd do her, do her, lose the pigtails and we'll talk, ugh who hasn't done her?" as well as Brian's relationships with human women), The now well-discussed showing of Bart's pecker in the Simpsons movie, The Winger song "Seventeen", The Police song "Don't Stand...".

    Hmmph. I guess we're all guilty of possessing and consuming what people call "child pornography".

  11. Filtering by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IWF has decided to make an exception for this particular image, but the underlying attitude that led to its blocking remains the same. If not for the public scrutiny this particular decision has prompted, the image in question would still be blocked. I find that very disturbing.

    The biggest problem I see with this sort of filtering is the fact that, at least for borderline cases, you rarely know whether the image being blocked is actually illegal. Usually it takes the due process of law to determine that a person producing an image has done something illegal, but with filtering all it takes to block an image is for the image to seem like child pornography. Whether it is or not is irrelevant. All that matters is the judgment of a private party.

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  12. Re:Whoo! by aussie_a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its almost like they were trying to do the right thing and realised they did the wrong thing.

  13. Why stop at albums by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why stop with the albums of decedant rock bands, Wikipedia is full of images of naked children.

  14. Re:Hmmm by blackest_k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everybody seems to be focused on the Scorpions Album Cover and its not the cover thats important, it's the now proven fact that the internet for the UK is filtered monitored and blocked!

    This event was a slip up, we were not supposed to know about the censorship and filtering going on. The big question in the UK is what else is being blocked and why? People outside the UK should know that the UK is being monitored and filtered (People in the UK should know too but probably the majority still don't). What is being blocked in your locale? It is highly unlikely that any of us are getting an unfiltered service.

    How much of what we read is honest reporting and how much propaganda? what don't we get to read whats missing ?