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A First Look At Internet Explorer 8 RC1

bogaboga writes "TG Daily reports that Microsoft quietly released the first update to its IE8 beta 2 to its closest partners last week. This new version only scores a dismal 12/100 on the Acid 3 test, though the score improves significantly if one leaves the [browser] window open for at least a minute. It is marked as 'Release Candidate 1.'"

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  1. Damn, did I really not know? by IceCreamGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is a release candidate still considered a beta? I was always under the impression that release candidates were past the "beta" moniker and were part of the next phase of deployment. But I'm an admin, not a programmer, and really have no clue when it comes to that kind of stuff.
    Coincidentally, I just watched Blade Runner on my Sony Superbeta hi-fi, still looks fantastic after all these years. Suck it, Blu-ray.

  2. Good by spinkham · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone who does both web security and some web design, I couldn't be happier.
    Yes, IE 8 still sucks, but it sucks less then IE 7, which sucks less then IE 6.
    IE 8 has some decent rendering improvements, a built in XSS filter, and lots of other changes.
    In standards compliance it still sucks versus all the compition, but as long as it helps kill off IE 6, I'm happy.

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    1. Re:Good by Leafheart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In standards compliance it still sucks versus all the compition, but as long as it helps kill off IE 6, I'm happy.

      As someone doing web design for a living for the past 10 years I can tell you that I'm really not happy. At all. I put standards compliance much higher than any gimmick like XSS. If firefox still had all the Extensions (which is hard to live without) but was not standards compliant, I would hate it, a lot.

      Another IE that is not standards compliant, means or a new set of rules I cannot use on my code, or another set of hacks (already ahve one for 5, 5.5, 6 and 7

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    2. Re:Good by Rearden82 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      IE6 is still very popular despite the fact that 7 came out over two years ago. If users haven't upgraded by now, I see no reason why they would when 8 is released.

      I'm sure IE8 will be broken in slightly different ways from 6 and 7. So all this really means is we will have to implement hacks for three different versions of a shitty, non-standards-compliant browser for the foreseeable future, instead of two.

  3. Not following standards costs us by MazzThePianoman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a web designer it really pisses me off to see Microsoft continuing to write their own standards and not follow the conventions set forth so that web pages could look the same across browsers. Passing the acid test should be mandatory and doing so would likely save millions if not billions in lost productivity time between broken websites and the extra hours of work web designers have to put in to work around IE's bugs.

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  4. Re:IE 10 by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    By the time IE 10 comes out, it will look like what Netscape 2.0 looks like to today's market. Even today, users hanging on to IE are reminiscent of the die hard users of Netscape 4. Netscape 4 was awful in comparison to IE5, but since it was the only viable alternative to IE, it hung around for quite a while. Life got a lot better when the Internet purged NS4, and it will get a lot better when it purges Internet Explorer.

    The only difference between the Netscape 4 debacle and Internet Explorer is that Netscape didn't have the resources to develop a better browser. They ended up needing to spin off browser development, thus resulting in Firefox in the long term. Microsoft has no such constraints. They have nearly everything they need to make IE a better browser, but they don't want to give up their stranglehold on the web.

    Well too damn bad. It's only a matter of time before IE loses its majority market share. The more the IE percentages drop, the faster the uptake of alternative browsers.

  5. IANA Coding Guru, but.... by penguin_dance · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being that M$ tied their browser to their OS to avoid a court judgment of having an illegal monopoly the main reason they're in this pickle in the first place? You can't nimbly fix bugs or create features if what you do on that level ends up crashing your OS on another level.

    Seems to me they've screwed themselves in the long run. They avoided having to removed Internet Explorer from Windows, but now their browser sucks on ice, is bloated, slow and filled with bugs that affect the OS. All of this could have been avoided (not to mention the continued $ hemorrhage of having to pay programmers to work on this) had they just concentrated on a decent OS and let others create the browsers. Instead they have (and still) pig-headedly insist on taking over or competing with every bit of software that touches their computers.

     

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  6. Re:Even simple HTML can crash IE8 by TeXMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Poorly written HTML should NOT crash a browser.

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  7. Re:Even simple HTML can crash IE8 by Fastolfe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing should crash anything.

  8. Re:Why It Takes an Extra Minute by FriendOfBagu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So if I blow of a college exam and only get 12% because I don't care, I didn't fail it?

    Sure, if you didn't sign up for the course in the first place.