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First Look At Windows 7 Beta 1

The other A. N. Other writes "It seems that Microsoft couldn't keep the lid on Windows 7 beta 1 until the new year. By now, several news outlets have their hands on the beta 1 code and have posted screenshots and information about this build. ZDNet's Hardware 2.0 column says: 'This beta is of excellent quality. This is the kind of code that you could roll out and live with. Even the pre-betas were solid, but finally this beta feels like it's "done." This beta exceeds the quality of any other Microsoft OS beta that I've handled.' ITWire points out that this copy has landed on various torrent sites, and while it appears to be genuine, there are no guarantees. Neowin has a post confirming that it's the real thing, and saying Microsoft will be announcing the build's official availability at CES in January."

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  1. Links to the torrent (for Google impaired folks) by Doug52392 · · Score: 5, Informative

    File name: Windows.7.Beta.1.Build_7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULFRE_EN_DVD.iso [MSDN iSO]
    Size: 2,618,793,984 bytes (2.44 GB)
    http://www.mininova.org/tor/2123650

  2. Re:Shill me one more time!!! by sdkit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Excuse me for being cynical but I will take this review with a pinch of salt as other reports show that, at least benchmark wise, there is absolutely no difference between Vista and Windows 7.

    There was one set of benchmarks that showed no improvement: http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/11/10/46TC-windows-7_1.html/. There was another set of benchmarks done on a later build that showed improvements: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3182&page=1/.

    As for Windows 7 feeling "so much more responsive".. well, depends who is paying you to write that review innit?

    Cynicism, conspiracy and an ad hominem attacks all in one. You're going all the way to +5 insightful!

  3. Re:List of changes between it and Vista plz. by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

    Heh, WinFS... It's such an easy troll target... ;)

    The storage system (not its own file system) called "WinFS" was released as Beta 1, but later cancelled, with components of it ending up in SQL Server 2008. It was later assumed to be dead for good, but Ballmer said in late 2006 that it was still being worked on, although he was not clear on in which products it would end up in. For all we know, the team could be working with the SQL Server team now.

    This is among the last pieces of good actual info on this project:
    http://blogs.msdn.com/winfs/archive/2006/06/23/644706.aspx

    Windows 7 will not include WinFS, and it was never announced for it.

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  4. Re:Do these get better just because of time? by Farmer+Pete · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most of the problems of Vista wasn't with Vista itself, it was with applications that were written poorly. I work for a company with ~2500 computers. We have over 10,000 unique pieces of software installed company wide. Many of those pieces of software were designed for Win95/98 and were only tweaked to work with XP. For example, they insist on installing to the root of C:\, the don't play well with multi-user installs, or they write data to their program files folder. I personally believe that Microsoft should get a medal for what they did with Vista, it's still a bitch to deal with, but they went out on a limb and tried to make programs behave properly. It's funny, if they hadn't done anything, people would have complained about the lack of security. They try to make apps behave like they do in other OS versions, and they get chastised endlessly. Hopefully you are correct and most widely used apps will be compatible with Windows 7. I didn't have any big issues with Vista, but many of utilities (A lot of it FOSS) I need to do my job didn't work under Vista.

  5. Re:why is this surprising? by lorenlal · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) It won't be named Vista.
    2) Supposedly, UAC is much more configurable, especially from the group policy angle.
    3) Not as much bloat is supposed to be bundled. If you want all the default MS software, you'll go to Windows Live to grab it. Bloat being: Media Player, the Movie Maker, Picture Gallery, etc. You'll get IE (cause you'll need something provided to go grab the stuff) and you'll get a pretty plain OS otherwise. I'm a huge fan of that.
    Other than that, I'm not sure if anything else has changed... But I expect that they've also worked on handling "very large files" and other stability stuff.

  6. Re:Did you turn off Aero? by John+Betonschaar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Non-aero window drawing is also hardware-accelerated, just not 3D hardware accelerated. And it has been like that since Windows 9x or something.

    Your computer isn't going to be more responsive by adding extra load on the GPU, only (possibly) prettier. Which is kind of subjective, I for one think Vista looks like multi-colored poo that gets in the way of working with the computer.

  7. Re:World domination 201 by datapharmer · · Score: 4, Informative

    XP can do 64-bit just fine, and has been able to for several years; even before Vista came out.

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  8. Features New to Windows 7 by tshak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Over 100 comments and we still don't have a concise list of substantial features Windows 7 offers over Vista?

    Features New to Windows 7.

    Enjoy!

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  9. What you are "aware" of is a lie. by bhpaddock · · Score: 5, Informative

    Windows Vista's performance "problems" have nothing to do with DRM. If you aren't playing back a DRM'd file, then there is no DRM-specific code running, and no penalty of any kind. The idea that Vista had any more DRM code running than Windows XP was a myth propogated mostly buy people who knew it wasn't true, and others who were gullible and believed anything that sounded bad about Vista.

    If you don't want DRM, don't buy any DRM'd media. Having support for DRM'd media in the OS (like BluRay / HDCP / etc) has absolutely ZERO impact on people who don't use DRM'd media.

    Vista had its issues and they are well understood, there is no reason to make up myths to blame them on.

  10. Re:Linux has UAC too by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 4, Informative

    UAC pops up asking you to elevate to delete a shortcut on the desktop, and then annoys you a SECOND time, asking if you're really sure you want to delete it. In Linux, you don't need root to delete a shortcut from your desktop.

    You misunderstand why the UAC dialog pops up. It's not the act of deleting the icon from your desktop. That doesn't require admin privs. What you fail to realize is that is a side effect of a feature of Windows called a "common desktop". Icons in the common desktop are shared with all accounts, they are meged with the icons in the users profile to create a single view.

    If you delete an icon from only your set of icons, no elevation is required. If you delete an icon from the shared desktop elevation is required because it affects multiple user accounts. The same feature exists for the start menu, in which you can have "shared" and "non-shared" shortcuts. You can delete the non-shared ones without elevation, but you can't delete the shared ones.

    I find the majority of people are like you. They simply don't understand why the UAC prompt is coming up. Perhaps that's a failure of Microsoft's, but one user should not be able to affect other users without elevating privilegs. It's working the way it's supposed to.

  11. Re:why aRe:They're glowing! by BungaDunga · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try Launchy. Does that and more, I hardly touch my start menu. Runs on XP for that matter.