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The Slippery Legal Slope of Cartoon Porn
BenFenner writes "Two out of the three Virginia judges involved with Dwight Whorley's case say cartoon images depicting sex acts with children are considered child pornography in the United States. Judge Paul V. Niemeyer noted the PROTECT Act of 2003, clearly states that 'it is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exists.'"
deserves 3 gunshot in your frocking face. if i saw any one of you in person defending this kind of sh*t i would be hard pressed to not pick up a chair and beat you till you were unconcious.
if someone is sick enough in the head to think about child porn so much as to draw cartoons of it, they deserve the same fate.
no apologies.
come send the FBI after me for saying this I dont care. All you people make me sick to my stomach.
this is why our society is morally decayed, because we actually let this exist by claiming free speech.
well i claim self defense and proactive strikes. too many children suffer horribly being sexually abused and if you are trying to defend these sickos i have no problem shooting you either.
I disagree.
The Law is neither smart nor stupid, it simply is. It's the application of the law and the way in which we modify it that is smart or stupid.
I will posit to you the same question I did to another poster. You dislike the current law. What would you suggest as an alternative? What is you proposed solution?
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He is not a child predator.
No, but the idea of sex with children turns him on. That makes him a dangerous, very potential child predator and someone I don't want near my kids, or anyone else's kids for that matter.
Viewing adult porn is different. Adults can consent or refuse to. However, a child can not legally consent, making any sexual act with a child rape. Sorry, but if the idea of raping children turns you on, then I want you off the streets and securely locked away from my kids. If you are OK with these people being near YOUR kids, then you need to have your kids taken away from you and given to parents with some common sense.
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
Um. Wine doesn't get better with age. It is *aged* but beyond a certain time it goes bad...
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
Nice to see people still miss the point. Whether you care to admit it or not, it's not normal to wank off to pics of underaged people. I personally lost interest in that more or less immediately upon turning 18.
The argument you're making is that because there isn't direct damage that it isn't causing damage. It's a bad argument, basically it would be OK to view and look at child pr0n as long as you didn't make or produce it. Encouraging it by giving the sites hits or trading other people's images would OK, because of course that person trading the images didn't make them.
I'm not really sure what about that isn't clear. Trading in kiddie porn is harmful to those that are abused and even in the best case scenario it trivializes what is typically a very damaging act.
And really, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for making light of what is an immensely painful experience for victims.
I don't accept your argument. The statement that it is completely harmless is not justified at any point in your argument so logically it cannot follow.
Furthermore it is a perversion of the previous poster's statement to argue that because of your questionable belief that therefore the individual is in favor of child molestation. Unfortunately that does not follow logically from the statement.
Furthermore you're appealing to emotions while subtly relying upon specious and unsubstantiated beliefs.
Arguing that because kids are not directly involved that therefore they are not being harmed is something that needs to be justified. In the case of the criminal in the original article, he had real pictures along side the false one. And I'd be very surprised if there were a substantial number of people that just had the artistic renderings without real images and videos.
On top of that there is no evidence provided that these people that would otherwise be molesting children if not for these generated images stop. The reality is that there are pedophiles that wouldn't ever molest a child, people that would molest a child aren't necessarily going to stop just because they can get images that are produced without doing so.
It would be naive to assume that there wasn't a physical component that no image can possibly fill.
What difference does it make how long the cartoon has been around. It's a portrayal of a 2-year-old. It is -- and should be IMO -- illegal to portray children having sex. If someone wants to argue that it's not a child, that it's a dwarf, fine. That is a question of fact. It is therefore up to a jury to decide whether it is a child or a dwarf being portrayed. If there is any reasonable doubt that it is a child being portrayed, then the accused must be found not guilty. Juries have to make much harder distinctions of fact than that on a daily basis. Convictions can only be obtained when the facts are fairly clear, which is how it should be.