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The Fight Over NASA's Future

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the still-no-power-at-my-house dept.

swestcott writes "The New York Times has an interesting article about the transition to the Obama administration and NASA's transition to the new Orion."

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  1. Re:I need rehab by Skye16 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Oh, and because both you and Thomas Paine feel it is right and true, it has to be taken as gospel truth?

    You're basically saying "just because I fervently believe I am right and you are wrong, you should believe me too". You're going to need to prove to me that your way is better than the one we have now.

    Take your time, I'll be here to look it over when your proof is complete. Until you do that, please refrain from being so damned self-righteous, mmkay? I'm quite content stating our current way is not the best way. I've yet to see anyone prove to me that their way is, overall, any better.

  2. Re:I need rehab by brian0918 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Oh, and because both you and Thomas Paine feel it is right and true, it has to be taken as gospel truth?

    Nope. Taking things on faith is how we got to this point.

    You're basically saying "just because I fervently believe I am right and you are wrong, you should believe me too".

    Actually, I stated my conclusions and provided a link to an argument. I can provide an argument if necessary, though it has been stated ad nauseum elsewhere.

    You're going to need to prove to me that your way is better than the one we have now.

    "Better" how? You're going to have to explain what you mean by this first before we can hope to get anywhere. Otherwise, we'll simply continue to talk past eachother. I'm perfectly willing to discuss this with you further, but this first point is crucial - what do you mean by "better", ie, what is it you hope will be gained by any such change?

  3. Re:I need rehab by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    My point is that if we're going to start arguing over who needs to prove what, then fine: we can start at the lowest point first and move on from there.

    • Every person owns their body..
    • Ownership means the exclusive right to control property.
    • Property rights are absolute, except when the right of one person infringes on the right of another person
    • All transfer of property or the use of property between person must be voluntary agreed to by all parties (no use of force)

    All other rights are derivatives from the basic ownership of one's body. Freedom of speech, association, etc. are assumed because you own your body and have the right to exclusively control it, until your action infringes on someone else's rights.