Security Checkpoints Predict What You Will Do

An anonymous reader writes "New security check points in 2020 will look just like something out of the futuristic movie, The Minority Report. The idea of the new checkpoints will allow high traffic to pass through just as you were walking at a normal pace. No more waving a wand to get through checkpoints — the new checkpoint can detect if you have plans to set off a bomb before you even enter the building."

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As if you were actually different

[SuperKendall]

So, when I walk into the airport, in December, at minus twenty, in shorts, nad my skin temperature is about ten degrees colder than the average, and my heart rate is about 20 points higher than the average, and I'm not sweating, and there's snow in my boot, I'm going to be intercepted every time -- for being different. Great.

Get over yourself. You aren't that different. You certainly aren't different enough from any other human to register with a system looking for subliminal actions and behaviors.

You think you are the ONLY ONE that dresses down for a trip from a cold place to a warm one? Once again - get over yourself.

do you think trained criminals can learn to pass polygraphs?

Possibly but these are not polygraphs we are talking about, but very subliminal actions you cannot block.

so crime will once again shift back to the days of slipping something into someone else's bags.

(a) You can't put a bomb into anyones bag that can drive a plane into a building.

(b) I dare you to even try approaching another persons bag in an airport. People are paranoid about their luggage, and if anything it would be far harder to do this than to get something through security today!

This is why security never learns. Criminals have an arsenal of techniques from thousands of years of history.

And this is why people like you never learn. Because throughout history, a policy of defense in depth has shown to be mostly effective while a policy of zero security has shown to end in disaster.

You like to throw water on this plan, fine - what is your plan? Strip search everyone? Perhaps arrest anyone dressing funny? Why is behavioral analysis not the preferred method of detecting potential problems when it's the least prone to unfair (and dangerous) profiling?

So once again, we've managed to stop the dumb criminal with nothing to gain

Considering that's 90% of them - sounds good to me.

Re:As if you were actually different

[holophrastic]

I'll take yours one at a time, to show that you're the idiot. And then I won't respond to your next post.

I am that different. I don't dress down, I'm always dressed down -- not going ot a warmer climate you clod, going to any climate. I wear shorts in the snow. (that's a period back there). I know I'm that different because within a ten minute period, I'm currently stopped at least three times by random strangers wondering from where I've escaped. I stop traffic when shovelling the driveway, and people say the most inane things. When it comes to these remote polygraphs, my skin temperature -- excuse me, galvanic skin response -- will be wildly different.

Polygraphs measure subliminal actions that you cannot block. It's not about blocking them. It's about their not being there. You have to be thinking about your lie in order to appear to be lying. Having told a lie to your wife yesterday doesn't make everything you say forever get caught as a lie. Similarly, believing something is true doesn't trigger the sensor. I can say that 13 * 13 = 168. It's not a lie if I can't do basic math. Sesame Street stops at 12. Sales personnel are very well trained at selling a product on its features, whether or not those features are true. Welcome to method acting, organized debates, politicians, and con artists.

Slip something into someone's bag you say? No problem. Remember the old question "has anyone handled your bags for you?" Yes. The taxi driver loaded them into and out of his trunk. With his two hands. Think it would be difficult for him to slip something from his hands into the bag that he's holding while you are already in the taxi, not watching him, because that's his job, and it's cold outside? Oh, and you're an 82 year old woman in a wheel chair and your bag is 50 pounds.

You're simply the ignorant one here. You think you're secure. I've been on flights all around north america in the last few years -- new york three times. Onto every one of them I've brought a two-inch blade. And get this, this'll really bother you. Not only did the blade go right through the metal detector, and being steel must have shown up, the persons watching never noticed; better than that, I did it by accident each and every time, because I wasn't thinking that I've got a utility blade on my key-ring when I was too busy taking off my shoes!

No one's saying that zero security is better than some security for preventing security threats. You're an idiot if you think that anyone proposes no defense as a solution to someone else's offense. We're talking about something so much bigger.

We're talking about defending against something dangerous that simply doesn't happen. We're talking about security that compromises freedoms. We're talking about security to prevent reasonable and acceptable risks.

The shoes thing is a great example of the first. They check shoes because you may have a bomb in your shoes. They do that because once someone was caught with a bomb in their shoes. So basically, no one has ever set off a bomb in their shoes. The old system seemed to work just fine. But now, now there is a whole pain in the ass to avoid something that never happens. It's not that bombs in shoes aren't dangerous, it's that eagles having heart-attacks mid-flight and falling through your sunroof killing you on your way to work is also very dangerous, it simply doesn't happen with any degree of frequently that it's worth the expense of caring.

Freedoms are also something that you people used to value. Apparently you've forgotten the difference between "papers please" and "photo id please" -- nothing. Your own car can now tattle on you in terms of speeds you were travelling, gps locations, and everything else. Good luck justifying why you were speeding seven months ago. Hard evidence says you were speeding. You don't remember why. Oh yeah, your daughter is seven months old, by the way. So, in your opinion, what's the difference between being strip-searched, interrogated, and

Stopping muslims is a good thing

[Anonymous Coward]

As if that's a bad thing.

Let's see now... just who sets off bombs on aircraft, takes hostages, hijacks, etc. What primary distinguishing characteristic can we find to help predict who will do that? Eye color? Favourite sports team? /sarcasm

For those who slept through Modern History class, I'll tell: religion. Specifically Muslims.
They are the most likely group to set off a bomb on an airplane or hijack it. We can pretend that's not the case (and continue with the current "security theatre" at airports) in order to protect the delicate sensibilities of the PC crowd, but that doesn't change facts.

And for those peaceful muslims who are offended at what I've just said, perhaps you should be more troubled by the actions of your fellow muslims and do more to reform your religion.

>>...anyone who looks Islamic will be stopped...