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Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested By Amtrak Police

Photographer Duane Kerzic was standing on the public platform in New York's Penn Station, taking pictures of trains in hopes of winning the annual photo contest that Amtrak had been running since 2003. Amtrak police arrested him for refusing to delete the photos when asked, though they later charged him with trespassing. "Obviously, there is a lack of communication between Amtrak's marketing department, which promotes the annual contest, called Picture Our Trains, and its police department, which has a history of harassing photographers for photographing these same trains. Not much different than the JetBlue incident from earlier this year where JetBlue flight attendants had a woman arrested for refusing to delete a video she filmed in flight while the JetBlue marketing department hosted a contest encouraging passengers to take photos in flight." Kerzic's blog has an account of the arrest on Dec. 21 and the aftermath.

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  1. Hay amtrak policia by MushMouth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many transit agencies have their own POLICE force, Check out what a BART police officer did this week. Amtrak maintains an official police force

  2. Re:sue Amtrak and JetBlue by ktappe · · Score: 5, Informative

    They can ask you to leave their premises

    Even that is questionable. This is a publicly-funded organization (they provide mass transit, after all) and the photographer had a legally purchased ticket. They do NOT have the right to selectively ask people to leave without a just reason for same (eg. threatening others, intoxication, etc.) Civil rights laws passed in the 1960's protect everyone, not just the african americans who fought for them--if others have the right to stay on the train platform, so does he.

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  3. Re:sue Amtrak and JetBlue by corsec67 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those companies have no right to ask you to delete photos.

    You don't even have to show them the pictures you took, since photography when you aren't trespassing isn't a crime. (Secure areas of military installations and nuclear facilities aside.)

    If you are allowed to be there, you aren't committing a crime until they ask you to leave and you don't. They can say "Stop taking pictures or leave" if you are on private property and that is said by a representative of the property you are on. In public, you can photograph pretty much anything, especially police and other security personnel.

    IANAL, and laws might be different in your state, but here is a lawyer talking about this, and a nice little pamphlet he made about this.

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  4. Attorney who track this stuff by Samschnooks · · Score: 5, Informative
    Carolyn E. Wright's site

    In her blog, there's more about NY City cops harassing anyone with a camera.

    So much for living life normally. The terrorists have won.

  5. Send Amtrak a comment... link on contest page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. Re:sue Amtrak and JetBlue by firephreek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, when I tried to stand up for my rights, I was taken into a back room, verbally assaulted, told to shut the f**k up and do exactly as they say because there were no witnesses and they would do everything the wanted to make sure I did exactly like they said, so I should get smart really f**king quick. All the while, the Tucson Police Dept officer's hand hovered over the holster of his weapon, his face inches from me, while my hands are cuffed behind my back and I'd already been thrown about. What I'd done? I had asked why I had just been jumped by three security agents, handcuffed, dragged about and threatened with pepper spray. I'm a law abiding citizen, had made no threatening movements or gestures. When they tried to offer diversion at my arraignment? I declined, preferring a trial, at which point all charges were dropped, dismissed, and the arrest was stricken from my record. In short: I had done absolutely nothing at all wrong. This is in short, why I remain incredibily paranoid and distrustful of law enforcement. I get very nervous and very uncomfortable around your badge wearing brothers. They no longer receive my donations.