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NZ File-Sharers, Remixers Guilty Upon Accusation

An anonymous reader writes "Next month, New Zealand is scheduled to implement Section 92 of the Copyright Amendment Act. The controversial act provides 'Guilt Upon Accusation,' which means that if a file-sharer is simply accused of copyright infringement he/she will be punished with summary Internet disconnection. Unlike most laws, this one has no appeal process and no punishment for false accusation, because they were removed after public consultation. The ISPs are up in arms and now artists are taking a stand for fair copyright."

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  1. The solution is easy by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just download a phone directory and spam everyone with generated accusations. They would either have to disconnect the whole country or rethink this utter stupidity.

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    1. Re:The solution is easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why not just spam the members of the legislature with the accusations? After two or three months of near-constant Internet service interruptions to their offices, I'm sure they would get the hint.

    2. Re:The solution is easy by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Then they'll put in a politician's clause - like they always do. Legislators in the US made their political solicitations calls immune to the Can Spam act.

      Even better, catch their spouses and children in the act. Much harder to make the family immune.

    3. Re:The solution is easy by endymion.nz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Before the election last year I wrote to the MPs who ran in my electorate and posted the replies in facebook group forum..

      http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=29834002818&topic=5497

      Would be good to get some feedback from others.

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  2. Incompetence By Design by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is it that the other Anglo-Saxon countries are all WORSE than the US when it comes to digital rights and freedoms? Canada's version of the DMCA is worse, NZ has this, Australia has its wonderful new Great Barrier Firewall planned, and don't even get me started on Britain and encryption. Seriously?

    1. Re:Incompetence By Design by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I didn't say the US had good copyright laws--they're god damned awful. But give me the choice between 99 year copyrights, and lawsuits (none of which have exactly been successes for the RIAA, even the one jury verdict they got was on the edge of being tossed out IIRC) and getting my internet permanentally cut off for suspicion of infringement and I'll take the former. Piss poor laws with due process rights over piss poor laws without them any day.

  3. How to disconnect any Kiwi's Internet Connection by CuteSteveJobs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    More proof that politicians pass laws to please their political donors and lobbyists, without understanding their implications. These infringement notices have been shown to be unreliable and easily spoofed.

    http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/
    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080605-study-paints-grim-picture-of-automated-dmca-notice-accuracy.html
    http://torrentfreak.com/study-reveals-reckless-anti-piracy-antics-080605/
    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/the-inexact-science-behind-dmca-takedown-notices/

    So now any New Zealander can have their internet connection cut if anyone knows their IP address: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/95089

    So today's Political Enemy of the Internet Award goes to New Zealand's Judith Tizard, who joins Australia's Stephen Conroy and Britains Andy Burnham. I could handle it when all politicians did was rort the system, but this is getting really annoying. I don't recall voting for any of this stuff, and I'll put them last on the ballot next time.

  4. yea...great. by Urza9814 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Reminds me of a couple years ago when I created a myspace music page for 'music' created from 'cat [some file] > /dev/audio'. I uploaded two files, and on the third one, myspace claimed it was copyright and locked the page up. It's _still_ locked up. Years later. Because whatever the hell they use to determine copyright screwed up.

  5. Re:Summary internet disconnection? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's like these things all get written by some geriatric lawyer who's thinking "Those damn whippersnappers aren't doing anything important on that intarthingy anyway".

    umm.. they're written by lobbyists for the music industry.. an industry of which "geriatric" is a gross understatement. They've failed to keep up with technology and now they're sinking fast. If they could get the Internet banned outright, they would.

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  6. Yes, Actually, it does. by thesupraman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You are missing the subtle half of the plan.

    If the policy implemented by an ISP is found upon later inspection to be too lenient on the 'evil pirates' then the ISP becomes legally responsible for the copyright infringement.

    Then again, if someone gets incorrectly disconnected, I suspect the ISP could at worst be forced to reinstate their connection, IF they can prove this.

    So, the only 'sane' thing an ISP can do is disconnect anyone at the slightest hint of trouble - anything else could result in the blame falling in their lap.

    I bet the ISPs are very happy at providing free policing services to the music/movie industries.. after all, they make SO much more money :/.

  7. What about company internet links? by thesupraman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An interesting question is what happens if a companies internet link is used to download 'copyrighted material'?

    Surely by this same measure, that companies link will be removed and they will not be allowed to have one? That should make staying in business interesting.

    Should, for example, some foreign 'pirate' decide to share a large quantity of copyright material, log the IPs downloading it, scan for NZ companies static IP addresses, then forward all of that data to the ISPs/Authorities involved it would create quite a problem..

    Could ALL the large companies/govt. dept. in New Zealand guarantee none of their staff will do such a thing?

    That is after all much the same situation as cutting off a families internet connection when their 10 year old discovers music downloading before their parents notice (quite a common occurrence I suspect..).

  8. We're the great fudgers by kaiwai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    yeap, we're the great fudgers - we avoid confrontation, heck, recent study showed that if New Zealand was offered a benevolent dictator and ran things better than now - most would ok it.

    Sure, there will be a few loud people who will kick up a stink, but the rest of NZ will comtinue moving. The anti-smacking bill isn't going to get removed, nor any of the other reforms introduced by Labour. Both parties talk about change but the reality is that they keep the status quo once they get it - then add more of their own laws to the sporgusboard.

    Its unfortunate that the green's are the only part who have their IT sorted out - and yet their economic and social policy royally sucks. How come there are so many idiots on the right - specifically, complete ludites when it comes to IT?

    1. Re:We're the great fudgers by Seriousity · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Too right mate. To my shame, the thought ofttimes occurs to me that as a nation, us Kiwis are the biggest bunch of complacent sheep out there.

      We can tell our fellow New Zealanders about what needs fixing in this country until we're blue in the face, and the majority will say "Nah mate she'll be right" and keep drinking tui and worshipping the All Blacks.

      I saw Richard Stallman's copyright vs community speech at the Otago University, and a speaker from the Greens party did the introduction - she made it quite clear that her party was genuinely more concerned about the rest about IT issues; however she mixed tripe about intellectual property and indigenous rights into her speech, which made her look like a silly fool who had no idea what she was talking about, and was trying to make copyright a pulpit for her crappy social policies. Stallman was making faces of agony behind her, and she seemed to have a hard time trying to figure out what we were all laughing about.

      Needless to say, the first thing RMS did after her speech was debunk 90% of it.
      /rant

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  9. Out of government reach? by Epsillon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't help thinking there's a larger issue at play here. It seems that governments the world over have suddenly realised that we were serious about a space beyond government control and are taking steps to "rectify" this and using the likes of the MPAA/RIAA as their diversion. I wonder if the various industry associations know they're being used? Let's look at what we've got so far:

    • Filesharing being rapidly beaten down by oppressive and draconian laws
    • Filtering and censorship akin to that of China's great firewall in supposedly "free" countries
    • Wiretaps, supposedly illegal, being inserted into ISPs and backbone nodes
    • Encryption becoming dangerous by dint of the UK's stupid RIPA which will throw you in prison if you can't decrypt something for the police

    And that's just off the top of my head. Are the governments becoming threatened by the Internet's open architechture? More to the point, how far are they going to go to destroy it before we decide enough is enough? The biggest problem for them, as I see it, is that the Internet, with millions of people in open and free contact, has the power to keep them honest. They don't seem to like that, do they?

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  10. Greens are the only party with a conscience. by refactored · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Let's face it, there is only one party left in NZ with any conscience. That's the Greens.

    Most (non-troll) slashdotters would be quite in agreement with all the Greens 'net policies and get a comfortable feeling that these guys actually understand and like the 'net.

    The Main Stream Media tries damn hard to portray the Greens as dope smoking hippy nutters, but thats because they're the only party in parliament not deep in the pockets of big business.

    If you actually look closely, the Greens are the only ones that give a shit about the environment, freedom, the poor and little guy. The rest of them only care about campaign funds, and a recursive frenzy between the media irrelavent sensationalized "human interest" stories and the politicians saying whatever ill-thought out thing that will make them look good on TV. Law and Order is a favourite.