The Power of the R Programming Language

BartlebyScrivener writes "The New York Times has an article on the R programming language. The Times describes it as: 'a popular programming language used by a growing number of data analysts inside corporations and academia. It is becoming their lingua franca partly because data mining has entered a golden age, whether being used to set ad prices, find new drugs more quickly or fine-tune financial models. Companies as diverse as Google, Pfizer, Merck, Bank of America, the InterContinental Hotels Group and Shell use it.'"

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popular? no

[geekoid]

Growing in use? sure.

Re:Only for certain kind of analyst...

[Samschnooks]

... most others keep thinking that M$ Excel is the silver bullet.

The folks I know who use Excel for analysis use it because it's the package that everyone gets in their organization, there's a shit load of material on the web that uses excel, there's plenty of add-ons for it (no need to reinvent the wheel), and when sharing data and analysis, everyone is familiar with it. An engineer I know who uses excel chose it because it was the fastest way to connect to his testing equipment. R is relatively new and as more folks come into the workforce who know it, we'll see it replace Excel for functions that it is better suited for.

Show me some example code

[bogaboga]

My request is to those that are in the know to show me some example code, that does something useful. Then later, compare that code to code from other languages to accomplish the same task.

Include reasons to support the notion that the R language is [necessarily] better at what it does.

Re:Show me some example code

[transonic_shock]

FTA
"I think it addresses a niche market for high-end data analysts that want free, readily available code," said Anne H. Milley, director of technology product marketing at SAS. She adds, "We have customers who build engines for aircraft. I am happy they are not using freeware when I get on a jet.""

Seriously, does this person know what she is talking about?

1. Yes, CFD and Structural Analysis software is increasingly written using open source tools and run on open source OS (Linux running on clusters)

2. SAS is not used to design any part of the aircraft.

I have noticed SAS uses the same kind of FUD to counter R as M$ uses to counter Linux.

Re:Show me some example code

[visible.frylock]

Seriously, does this person know what she is talking about?

Let's see, Director of technology product marketing. I'm gonna go with a big NO.

Re:Show me some example code

[stephentyrone]

I have no idea how i would start to code that in C, python, etc. in a way that's remotely efficient ;)

How about:

#include <clapack.h>
dgesdd( argument list );

This sort of thing is a feature of libraries, not an inherent advantage of one language.

Re:Show me some example code

[Daniel Dvorkin]

One big advantage R has over Matlab (er, besides the fact that R is OSS, but of course there's Octave for those who want an OSS Matlab alternative) is that R handles non-matrix data structures much, much better than Matlab does. Trying to work with anything that isn't a vector or a matrix in Matlab is an exercise in pain.

Re:Show me some example code

[Peaquod]

Yeah that's a poorly informed comment. C is a freeware language. And it is used in virtually every embedded system on earth... like the control system for the laser that cuts your cornea at the neighborhood lasik shop. No doubt R is staggeringly less mature than C, but the fact that it is free has no bearing on its quality.

Free as in beer

[visible.frylock]

"R is a real demonstration of the power of collaboration, and I don't think you could construct something like this any other way," Mr. Ihaka said. "We could have chosen to be commercial, and we would have sold five copies of the software."

Very true. This is what I try to explain to people when they can't understand why some software is given away gratis. Because if they charged for it, given the current attitudes of the market, they wouldn't stand a chance and wouldn't ever get any market share to begin with.

FUD from SAS

[idiot900]

"I think it addresses a niche market for high-end data analysts that want free, readily available code," said Anne H. Milley, director of technology product marketing at SAS. She adds, "We have customers who build engines for aircraft. I am happy they are not using freeware when I get on a jet."

Wow...talk about FUD. Does SAS imdemnify against plane crashes?

Re:Not a language, really

[Hobbes_2100]

Are you kidding me? Are you really *(*$@#ing, Grade A kidding me?

Python/Perl/Ruby require interpreters. Scheme and Lisp are frequently run within interpreters. "stand-alone executable" require HARDWARE. Any programming system requires *something* underneath it unless you are programming in a purely physical system like an automated abacus with mechanical gears that buzz and whirr.

Programming languages are defined by their Turing completeness: can they do things repeatedly, can they assign values to memory locations and perform some basic set of operations (nand works nicely), can they make decisions. Everything else is fluff.

Perl has "fluff" that handles regular expressions very well.

Python (and others) have "fluff" that make networking and database ops easy.

R has "fluff" that makes it terribly convenient to work with data.

Matlab has "fluff" that makes it very easy to do numerical methods programming.

Mathematica has "fluff" that makes it very easy to do symbolic computation.

Each and every one of these, and most well-known languages, with all their warts and beauty marks are Turing complete and are deserving of the term "programming language".

Regards,
Mark

Re:Not a language, really

[slashdotmsiriv]

Your comment is absolutely wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language

R is a Turing complete programming language. The fact that it requires an interpreter is completely irrelevant.

Re:Not a language, really

[TapeCutter]

'R' is not a general programing language but that hardly means it's not a language. Producing a stand alone executable is not a feature of any language, it's a feature of the tool set.

Re:Only for certain kind of analyst...

[Kyle3om]

The flowchart programming of labview is a pain in the butt for many looped programs and programs with complicated timings. Mablab is easier for most things (and more powerful) if you can get your external equipment to work with it without jumping through hoops.

Nothing really

[ArchieBunker]

Labview is well designed for its intent. So someone with minimal programming skills can sit down and get something done in a short amount of time. Would I use it for crunching numbers or collecting terabytes of data, probably not. But its sure damn handy if you want to interface test equipment and get results. Its all about the best tool for the job.