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RIAA Gives Up In Atlantic Recording v. Brennan

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "In Atlantic Recording v. Brennan, the landmark Connecticut case in which the first decision rejecting the RIAA's 'making available' theory was handed down, the RIAA has finally thrown in the towel and dismissed its own case. Mr. Brennan never appeared in the case at all. In February, 2008, the RIAA's motion for a default judgment was rejected for a number of reasons, including the Court's ruling (PDF) that there is no claim for 'making available for distribution' under the US Copyright Act. The RIAA moved for reconsideration; that motion was denied. Then, in December, the RIAA's second motion for default judgment was rejected. Finally the RIAA filed a 'notice of dismissal' ending the case."

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  1. Not the end by a longshot by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We can expect our good friends of the Righteous Inquisition Army of Autocrats to file more lawsuits and claim that their arguments were never rejected in court because they dismissed their counterclaim before the judge could smack it down. Business as usual for the scum of the earth, I guess. Hey remember when these guys used to SELL MUSIC?

    1. Re:Not the end by a longshot by Darundal · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, I doubt they will file any more lawsuits, considering they are trying to work with the ISPs (AKA shift the bad PR away from themselves) to "handle" downloaders.

    2. Re:Not the end by a longshot by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lawyers are not lobbyists. They MAY be the scum of the earth, but they are a hired hitter and often have no real opinion one way or another about a case except winning. In reality this is WHY they are as scummy as they are, they have scruples and no loyalties or moralities to anything unless it could ultimately hurt them like knowing a client is guilty through the clients own admission but hiding this fact.

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    3. Re:Not the end by a longshot by FireStormZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's why I said this is *close* to breaking the promise nit that he did break the promise. Since about 2001 this guy has been on speed dial for a lobby group. I am unable to find anything he has done outside of the Recording industry for the past seven years. This, to me, is straining the spirit of that promise.. The guy decided to make his bones throwing for one industry while in public life (2001-2008) and lawyer or not that says something about his relationship to lobbyist..

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    4. Re:Not the end by a longshot by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey remember when these guys used to SELL MUSIC?

      They never sold music, they sold records. The music was just a reason to get you to buy a black piece of plastic with grooves, or a silver piece of plastic with rainbows. If they were selling music to you, you would own the music and it would be yours to do with as you wished. As it was, you could do anything you wished with the plastic disk, but not the music it contained.

      The folks who publich sheet music for musicians to buy in music stores sell music.

      Now the majors are trying to rent music and call it a sale. All they are selling is a service, a download of bits. Whether or not there is DRM you have no rights to the music you "buy" from them. You are paying only for the download. IMO sixty nine cents for a download of bits you have no rights to is insane.

      The indies are far more honest and reasonable; they give the music away on websites and via P2P, using the music itself as a reason for you to buy other things (CDs, t-shirts, etc).

    5. Re:Not the end by a longshot by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      The indies are far more honest and reasonable; they give the music away on websites and via P2P, using the music itself as a reason for you to buy other things (CDs, t-shirts, etc).

      Indies also sell their music, and anyone who professes to hate the RIAA should be sure to buy music from indie performers.

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    6. Re:Not the end by a longshot by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      I believe it's ... illegal in the U.S. for a lawyer to refuse a case based on their personal opinions one way or the other

      You are 100% incorrect.

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    7. Re:Not the end by a longshot by FireStormZ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Consider yourself corrected...

      Only a public defender *has* to take a case and even then there are ways to get out of it. A private lawyer working, usually, with the initiator of a law suit, can say no for any reason they want (outside of normal discrimination laws)

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    8. Re:Not the end by a longshot by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've been reading these stories for years and wanted to thank you for the good work you have all done.

      It's changed my perspective and my families purchasing habits with music. Everyone I speak with knows I don't purchase music when the RIAA will benefit from it.

      I go to sites such as secondspin.com, gametz.com or amazon.com marketplace and purchase second hand music if I must have that song. Also I've been using google to find independents to purchase directly online.

      The internet is a liberating tool. Another reason I'm hoping it becomes like public roads. Everyone should have it available and fast. This way we can punish organizations such as these guys by taking our money elsewhere.

      Over the last few years I've also switched my home computers to Ubuntu Linux (kicking Microsoft out) and replaced Concast Internet with a local provider. Similar reasons. I don't like their poor attitude and won't do business with them.

      This is the only way everyday people will get these companies attention. Perhaps they will figure it out. Then again, perhaps they will be the ones asking for a bail out as well.

      Thanks again and keep up the great work!

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    9. Re:Not the end by a longshot by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've been reading these stories for years and wanted to thank you for the good work you have all done. It's changed my perspective and my families purchasing habits with music. Everyone I speak with knows I don't purchase music when the RIAA will benefit from it. I go to sites such as secondspin.com, gametz.com or amazon.com marketplace and purchase second hand music if I must have that song. Also I've been using google to find independents to purchase directly online. The internet is a liberating tool. Another reason I'm hoping it becomes like public roads. Everyone should have it available and fast. This way we can punish organizations such as these guys by taking our money elsewhere. Over the last few years I've also switched my home computers to Ubuntu Linux (kicking Microsoft out) and replaced Concast Internet with a local provider. Similar reasons. I don't like their poor attitude and won't do business with them. This is the only way everyday people will get these companies attention. Perhaps they will figure it out. Then again, perhaps they will be the ones asking for a bail out as well. Thanks again and keep up the great work!

      On behalf of the folks who have suffered so much from this long RIAA nightmare, thank YOU for being so conscientious about being sure not to do business with the bad guys. I keep a list of independent music sources for consumers such as yourself.

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    10. Re:Not the end by a longshot by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm getting a little tired of the relentless bashing of the guy a genuine majority of the country elected.

      If you're tired of that, then you're tired of democracy.

      I voted for him, and I don't care if every other person in the country voted for him and elected him unanimous proclamation.

      He is president, not king. And when we disagree with something he does, we're going to let him know about it.

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    11. Re:Not the end by a longshot by Zordak · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Illegal, no. But sometimes it is inprudent. I work for a firm, and my job is to make money for the firm. If I only took cases I personally liked or was only willing to advocate positions that I found personally appealing, I would be useless. There are many aspects of the law I wish were different, but that doesn't mean I don't give my clients the full benefit of the law as it is. Where you have to draw the line is at being unethical. I will not do something for a client that is unethical or illegal. I will not argue a position that is unethical. There are lawsuits I wouldn't file. I have defended clients against some of them (including patent trolls). That's the problem with the RIAA's lawyers. In my opinion, they crossed the ethics line. I can get behind advocating for a client you don't agree with. I can't get behind breaking the law, misrepresenting facts, and filing suits without an adequate basis.

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  2. Does this have status as precedent? by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The rejection of the making available argument appears to have stuck, but in dismissing the case does the law still recognize the summary judgment as a precedent for future cases?

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  3. Hmm. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm guessing that by "gives up" TFA actually means "is allowed to leave without any consequences for filing a meritless suit". This seems rather like finding a thief in your house and having him give your stuff back and leave. I'd rather have my stuff back than not; but somehow justice seems underserved.

    1. Re:Hmm. by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In many cases, a woman (or man) standing on a corner at midnight dressed in hot pants, bikini top and spiked heels, is soliciting for prostitution, but to make an arrest stick, she (or he) still has to actually ask for money. We make cops go through the action of bringing up price and getting an answer, to avoid basing an arrest merely on whether that same cop thinks someone is dressed too provocatively.
            Copyright infringement may be every bit as difficult to pinpoint as you say, but it's equally difficult to say just where to draw the line if we start drawing it somewhere in the largish space of 'making available'. Just like Barney Fife may honestly think that woman standing on the curb, trying to hail a cab, in the same outfit she went clubbing in, is a hooker, the RIAA may honestly think (or claim to think) that having a torrent program at all is over where the line should be drawn.
              In debating just where to draw the legal line, it should always be remembered, some lines have practical problems when it comes to actually testing them, some are based on simple principles, and some require very intricate interpretations of those principles. Good laws are usually, if not always, ones where the lines are simple enough to apply in many cases, clear cut enough to repeatedly give the same verdicts when the same circumstances apply, and based on principles that can be explained to the general public's satisfaction.

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  4. Not that anyone should really be surprised by Proteus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone who paid attention and had even a hobbyist's legal training could see that the goal of the RIAA lawsuit in question was primarily intimidation.

    Transmitting copyright material without authorization (or without a solid fair use claim) is illegal, and I don't begrudge copyright-holders their ability to do so. But simply advertising that you might have some information someone might want? This gets far into the realm of Orwellian and rightly doesn't have any legal teeth.

    My bet is that the RIAA is quietly formulating ideas about how to push for legislation that will allow them to draw and quarter... *ahem* litigate against individuals who imply that they might have some copyright content available. Hopefully those of us who get the silliness can educate Congress and keep that from happening.

    The system does, kinda-sorta, work. ;-)

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    1. Re:Not that anyone should really be surprised by castironpigeon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The system only works for those who can pay to play.

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  5. Sooo.. will it cost the RIAA? by Boetsj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there any way the RIAA can now be held accountable for the costs incurred by the legal system for reviewing the this nonsense?

  6. So that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The RIAA hogs the civil justice system for racketeering and ruining people's lives and simply gets to walk away unscathed when they smell a loss?

  7. The next key question by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Attorney's fees?

    Because if I'm not totally mistaken, the standard RIAA tactic on them is:
    1. Argue against any counterclaims for attorney's fees on the basis that those can always be handled after the case has been decided and is thus redundant.
    2. If they're going to lose (and thus be subject to an attorney's fees hearing), withdraw the case so that no attorney's fees decision gets in front of a judge.

    The obvious risk here is that attorney's fees are essential to deterring the "pay up or I'll cost you even more in legal fees" tactic.

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  8. Can we now get $120,000 per dismissed lawsuit? by MeNotU · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds fair to me... That lawsuit could have been affecting at least 720 people!

  9. Re:Yay? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe NYCL can answer this one, but if they brought a case and admitted later that it was not based on any real laws does this set up a countersuit for barratry? And can this be done in a way that will set a precedent?

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  10. Re:Is it just me... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's just you. The RIAA hasn't realized anything of the nature, whether true or not. What the RIAA has> realized is that the lawsuits are ineffective (duh, big surprise, dumbasses) and that there are less costly and probably more effective ways of dealing with copyright infringement, such as pushing the responsibility over to the ISPs.

    As I've said before, I think the RIAA has discovered a way to either force or at least entice ISPs to do their bidding.

    I'm not in the loop on this, but here's the entirety of what I think

    1) P2P has, most recently and very publicly, become a headache for high speed Internet providers. P2P traffic taxes their infrastructure, so they make moves to block or at least limit it, including everything from additional charges through routing changes, to downright packet manipulation.

    2) RIAA has a different reason for disliking P2P. But they see that the ISPs have a common enemy here: P2P.

    3) The only remaining question is -- where to go from here? P2P is prevalent enough and has enough legitimate uses that the ISPs don't want to outright cancel customers, but they also don't want customers taxing their infrastructure to the max.

    How do RIAA and the ISPs team up in this regard? It's a good question. I think we're seeing the beginning of the end of network neutrality.

  11. Re:With/Without Prejudice by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think the issue now is whether the RIAA can dismiss the case at this point without prejudice.

    Under the Federal Rules, a second voluntary dismissal operates as an adjudication on the merits. This is the second case against Mr. Brennan, the first being the case in which they sued him as a John Doe, obtained a subpoena, learned his name and address, and then dismissed. So it would appear to me that this is 'with prejudice' even though they have labeled it 'without prejudice'. In any event, I don't think they're going to mess with Judge Janet Bond Atherton again, any time soon.

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  12. Re:Is it just me... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

    What the RIAA has realized is that the lawsuits are ineffective (duh, big surprise, dumbasses)

    Digital music guy Steve Meyer just came out with a good article on that subject.

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  13. Re:And there was a cheer throughout the land... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not cheering. Think about how much money was wasted by RIAA, by the defendant, and by the U.S. Government prosecuting a case that went nowhere.

    When a prosecutor or litigant voluntarily closes a case, the government should impose a fine for "wasting taxpayer dollars" or something similar. Discourage RIAA and others from wasting the People's money on BS cases.

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  14. Re:And there was a cheer throughout the land... by Sancho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So to play Devil's Advocate, if you know that you've got a loser (either because new evidence comes to light or just by the way that the trial is moving), you think that they should continue to waste taxpayer money in order to avoid a fine rather than cutting their (and the taxpayer) losses and dismissing the case?

  15. Re:Is it just me... by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    P2P has, most recently and very publicly, become a headache for high speed Internet providers. P2P traffic taxes their infrastructure, so they make moves to block or at least limit it, including everything from additional charges through routing changes, to downright packet manipulation.

    Yeah, P2P has become a headache for ISPs but how much of that headache is caused on music vs video? I could download/upload 60 mp3s and probably not have the same impact on my ISP as the neighbor downloading last nights American Idol......

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  16. Re:How can I fileshare and not get sued? by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Funny

    You sound like an RIAA investigator.

    Are the RIAA investigators really so incompetent that they'd need to troll Slashdot looking for advic.... scratch that, they are that incompetent.

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  17. Re:And there was a cheer throughout the land... by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When a prosecutor or litigant voluntarily closes a case, the government should impose a fine for "wasting taxpayer dollars" or something similar.

    Because the law as it is is restricted to the wealthy, but isn't restricted to the rich enough?

    The intent is good, but your suggestion would achieve the opposite of your stated goal: Only the very rich could sue, because THEY can afford the fees.

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  18. Maybe not that easy (for the RIAA) by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The defendant might still be able to recover costs and/or expenses if he wants to try. That is up to the judge. It's easier to get into court than to get out of it. You can't necessarily say "Oh well, that didn't work" and walk away.

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  19. Re:Boo RIAA, Hooray beer! by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Time is money, so any time you fight against a corporation doing idiotic things, it is going to cost someone. The only shame here is that someone didn't fight back earlier with this defense. If you are concerned about money being spent, you will cheer this dismissal. Consider it an investment, because those settlement letters are losing their effectiveness every time RIAA gets their crappy legal theories shot down. And that costs the people less money overall.

    Justice is not a waste of money, it's all of the passive settling that people did. They gave up a little money, collectively, to avoid being personally hit for a bunch of money. And basically, that's what you're complaining about - the taxpayers collectively giving up a little money so they don't get individually hit with this silly prosecution idea. Only this way, the prosecution's ideas get thrown out (yes, slowly) until they come up with something valid.

    Whether the RIAA will stop going after individuals is still being debated, but they at least made the announcement, meaning they know it's not effective, or it's not based on sound legal theory.

  20. Re:Boo RIAA, Hooray beer! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    those settlement letters are losing their effectiveness every time RIAA gets their crappy legal theories shot down. And that costs the people less money overall. Justice is not a waste of money, it's all of the passive settling that people did. They gave up a little money, collectively, to avoid being personally hit for a bunch of money.

    Exactly. Every "settlement" payment was just adding fuel to the fire, encouraging them to go after other people. And every time someone refused to settle, they were helping to bring about an end of the madness.

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  21. Re:OK, so the code geek in me just has to ask... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

    I said he was incorrect. A civil lawyer does not have to accept any case he doesn't want to accept. Each and every one of the RIAA lawyers is fully and personally responsible for what he or she has done. There is nothing about being a lawyer which excuses their behavior.

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