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Hope For Fixing Longstanding Linux I/O Wait Bug
DaGoodBoy writes "There has been a long standing performance bug in Linux since 2.6.18 that has been responsible for lagging interactivity and poor system performance across all architectures. It has been notoriously difficult to qualify and isolate, but in the last few days someone has finally gotten a repeatable test case! Turns out the problem may not even be disk related, since the test case triggers the bug only by transferring data either between two processes or threads. The test results are very revealing. The developer ran regressions all the way back to version 2.6.15 that demonstrate this bug has more than doubled the time to run the test in 2.6.28. Many, many people working at improving the desktop performance of Linux will be very happy to see this bug die. I know that I, personally, will find a way to send the guy that found this test case his beverage of choice in thanks. Please spread the word and bring some attention to this issue so we can get it fixed!"
Dang! I was going for First Post, but my machine was stuck in some weird I/O wait state.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
bugzilla.kernel.org?
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
I'm not sure about anybody else here, but I was surprised to see that they mentioned that this will benefit 'Desktop' users.
I think that when it comes to the performance spectrum, Servers would be where this fix is the most needed. Admittedly if you are running a solid server, you should know to use older gen hardware and software that has been proven to be stable. However, some of this 'shiny new' tech coming out is appealing.
How about the Seagate 1500GB drive hang error? To my understanding Windows has been fixed, but the problem still persists in Linux. Could this potentially make a difference? I've been looking to build myself a nice NAS and those 1500GB drives are _cheap_. I can pick one up for about $160. I remember not too long ago that could only get me 80GB.
If this get resolved is there any chance the fix could get ported to Windows? I just had my Dad's XP laptop completely freeze after I plugged in a bog-basic USB thumbdrive. The desktop sprang to life only after I unplugged it. I wish some of the AC Windows fanboys who were hassling me here last week were around to see it. "Ready for the desktop" my ass.
Well, maybe the kernel developers or bugzilla developers could use the practice in making a reliable scalable system out of the systems that they design.
--jeffk++
ipv6 is my vpn
wow, not just badsummary, utterly worthless summary. Here's the relevant discussion from LKML. Yes, this is all of it.
Peter Zijstra
Andrew Morton
In http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309 the reporters have
identified what appears to be a sched-related performance regression.
A fairly long-term one - post-2.6.18, perhaps.
Testcase code has been added today. Could someone please take a look
sometime?
There appear to be two different bug reports in there. One about iowait,
and one I'm not quite sure what it is about.
The second thing shows some numbers and a test case, but I fail to see
what the problem is with it.
This somewhat deflates the excitement evident in the OP. I mean, I know what he's talking about, these apparently random 1-2 second FREEZES while working, but if the guys in LKML arn't talking about it it's probably not being really worked on.
Sure, because every Windows developer is a lazy motherfucker that doesn't like his work and plays Solitaire the whole day long, and never ever work fixing things for the love of art. Hard working enthusiastic developers is a Linuzz monopoly.
It's time to realise that Abble's products are the biggest abomination these days. Just say NO to the dumb iAbble way!!
I am overjoyed that my suspicions have finally been vindicated. I've been working 10+hours a day on linux for the last 13years and you tend to get in tune with your environment (i can still today recite my DOS bootup tune on my XT even though I haven't worked on it for 20 years:-) and some time ago after installing a new flavour of linux I immediately started complaining to fellow workers that something has gone wrong in the kernel but it was not annoying enough to really do something about it; you start living with it. It manifests sometimes when I compile - my system simply locks up for 20-30 seconds which is something I never experienced before. I'd say it happens once out of every 50 compiles of the same program with gcc. During such occurrences, I can't access anything on my desktop which annoyes me cause I typically switch to another kterm session to prepare to run the build whilst compiling (to keep up the productivity and all that). I have also seen strange ratios of i/o to cpu wait in 'top' nowadays but can probably ascribe that to CPU's that just became ridiculously fast and the way top calculates its scores. Nevertheless, I've mumbled over and lambasted i/o wait in Linux ever since a very specific time in the past and even though I haven't noted the exact date, I'm sure its related to this. Anyway, I found this intrigueing enough to create a slashdot account after years to share my joy that the bugs days are hopefully numbered now.
For what it is worth, the problem is real.
We have experienced massive negative effects with our MySQL server; downgrading to early linux kernel solves the problem. This has been very difficult to debug as we never guessed that the OS would be a factor... we figured it had to be something we were doing. Only by chance did we try another distro / kernel only to find that everything starts working fine when you downgrade.
Users notice this a ***lot***: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/131094