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Google Challenging Proposition 8
theodp writes "Coming the day after it announced layoffs and office closures, Google's California Supreme Court filing arguing for the overturn of Proposition 8, which asks the Court not to harm its ability to recruit and retain employees, certainly could have been better timed. Google's support of same-sex marriage puts it on the same page with Dan'l Lewin, Microsoft's man in Silicon-Valley, who joined other tech leaders last October to denounce Prop 8 in a full-page newspaper ad. But oddly, Microsoft HR Chief Mike Murray cited religious beliefs for his decision to contribute $100,000 to 'Yes On 8', surprising coming from the guy who had been charged with diversity and sensitivity training during his ten-year Microsoft stint. "
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For us non-Americans, is this the one about gay marriage?
--LOCK THE CASH BOX
Yeah, basically those two things are what it really does all boil down to. They'll wiggle about trying to call you intolerant for not tolerating their attempts to use the machinery of government to restrict the rights of others, or whatever other dishonest bullshit they feel compelled to spew. But basically it's fags are gross and/or the bible says so.
As a supporter of Proposition 8, I would be a lot more interested in moving to a state that does not allow for same-sex marriage.
"There can be little doubt that union activities lead to continuous and progressive inflation." F. A. Hayek
in Ratio of 5 to list of other
Before Prop 8 there were 10,000 married gay couples, 0.21% of all California married couples who also apparently happen to have some kind of genius programming talent that makes Google desperate enough to support the prop 8 repeal.
I'm not against gay marriage I just think it's a big religious fundamentalist vs counter-culture circle jerk over what might as well be imaginary skittle sh*ting unicorns.
It seems that someone at Google found themselves unable to resist joining in yet another round of the great culture war circle jerk of negligible impact on the real world known as prop 8 while meanwhile we have two wars going, the economy that is spiraling into depression, banks are stealing the wealth of this country, and California is about to go BROKE. In fact the governor used his state of the state speech to talk about the enormous budget crisis we are now facing. All public works projects in California have stopped!!!! And all anyone wants to talk about is freakin' prop 8!
where you and your husband/wife are legally "just good friends".
Is that the correct pc term nowadays? I have trouble keeping track.
Hey Bob, how's that husband/wife of yours? I heard he got laid off at Google.
Belief is nothing but accepting some one's lie as truth. That is lieing to self.
It's true, I didn't vote for the jewish holocaust, but those jews have too much power, which is why I voted for the nazi's.
I thought it was because Hitler and the Nazi's ran on a platform of hope.
If you have something that you dont want anyone to know, maybe you shouldnt be doing it in the first place -Eric Schmidt
When corporations get involved with government, it gets ugly. Same with church and state. So regardless of my feelings on Google's position, my thought is they should shut up.
Of course, as you indirectly mention, the Mormon Church should shut up too. From Utah, they launched a huge multi-million dollar campaign to support "Yes on 8" in California. Check out this Google Trends for some interesting insight.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=proposition+8
That's right. The largest group of people looking up information online on California's Proposition 8 were mormons from Salt Lake City, UT!
Religion needs to back the hell down.
The law is in question at present. It is good to see Google coming out on the side of human rights, even if it coincides with its own selfish motives to have the very best employees in the state where it has the most offices.
Gays are a freak of nature and therefore should not be given the same rights as normal offspring producing couples. If the majority of people were married gay, then the human population would go extinct.
Actually, it does you harm. As society's morals slip further and further away from Biblical truth, society will reap more and more of the wirlwind that comes with immorality. Plus what about all the people who are against Gay Marriage that now may not want to work at Google at all because of it's political stance? Apparently Google isn't concerned about that talent pool. And I know all you lefties will chime in and say because there isn't any talent pool there, but if you do a little research you will find otherwise. Mark my words, regardless of if Proposition 8 stands or falls, Google is a giant of a company that just made an appointment with a future David event.
And don't get the idea that just because there are a lot of pro-gay marriage post here that this in anyway reflects the morality of the average American, just a bunch of immoral people parrioting off. The people of California have spoken loudly on how they stand.
Two comments. First - the New Testament part of the Bible also condemns homosexuality.
THIS is your justification to outlaw gay marriage?
According to BibleBabble, here are some more rules the bible lays out:
Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)
Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?
If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10). I wonder if Dr. Laura would like that one to be enforced?
If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death. (Leviticus 20:11)
If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death. (Leviticus 20:14)
If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed. (Leviticus 20:15-16). I guess you should kill the animal since they were willing participants. Are they crazy?
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)
Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)
If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake. (Leviticus 21:9)
People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)
If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
How about: "When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand." -- Deuteronomy 25:11-12" I.E. if you're in a fight with another man and your wife touches him to help you, she should get her hand cut off!
I swear, there sure is a lot of selective reading of the Bible when it comes to homosexuality.
So what? Blacks are very much above average represented in the NBA. And while they may be a minority, there are very many more than you seem to think...etc..etc.
So, should be give them special rights above others?
I'm not going to argue quotas and such here...but, the point is, that sure, there are higher representations of some people over others in some areas...and so what? It surely isn't the basis for putting those people for whatever reason above other just because of the way they look, or behave or what they prefer to fuck when the lights are out.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
I don't hate anybody.
I do dislike those who wish to deny others equal rights on the basis of their belief in fairy tales. I am not against a man being allowed to have four wives so long as a woman may have four husbands(or four wives, for that matter). The concept of male and female isn't as black-and-white as we'd like that to be, and if we perceive ourselves to be "above" the other animals then we should be more tolerant about naturally-occuring diversity.
Getting back on track, I believe it is appropriate to discriminate in certain cases. 99.9999999 people who voted for prop 8 did so for religious reasons. A medical doctor who shuns evolution could make the mistake of haphazardly spawning drug resistant bacteria through careless administration of medicine. I'd be more than happy to hire a person believes in a god which is an allegorical projection of their hopes and dreams as opposed to a vengeful god who shat out the earth in 7 days or whatever.
The reason we supposedly fight wars is for the rights and freedoms of all men and women. If there was no constitution, there would be nothing worth fighting for. The "counter culture circle jerk" is probably the only reason you have the right to vote if you don't own property, or if you're black, or a woman, or a native American. The same circle jerk is the reason you don't work 16 hours a day from age 14 until you die of exposure to your work environment.
But let me translate for you: shut the fuck up, you ungrateful little shit. People have fought and died for your rights and their own, which are far more important than money. Or at least they used to be.
"all they want is the same right"
I'm sorry, but that's incorrect. They already have the right to marry. What gays are fighting for is to change the meaning of marriage to include a relationship between same-sex individuals. That is a major change in the definition of marriage. Gays don't want the same right, they want a new right. Same-sex marriage has never been a right. This isn't just a semantic issue, this has to do with the foundation of civilized society (read the U.N.'s Declaration on Human Rights, for example).