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MS Silverlight To Stream Obama Inauguration Events

Ilgaz writes in to let us know that we will have to install MS Silverlight 2 to watch the US President's inauguration online. Everyone running Mac PPC, Linux, and FreeBSD has been left out, as there are no working Silverlight 2-capable alternatives on these systems. Here is Microsoft's press release announcing the selection of Silverlight yesterday. Streaming of various events around the inauguration begins today at the Presidential Inaugural Committee site, which touts its "inclusive and accessible" coverage.

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  1. So much for a tech savvy Whitehouse. by retech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That certainly didn't take long to have the rhetoric fail and the reality take charge.

    1. Re:So much for a tech savvy Whitehouse. by Joe+Jay+Bee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From these events, it is obvious that the new administration either does not know about or does not care about the passion this community has for free ideals.

      A very tiny community, compared to the overwhelming majority who a) don't give a toss about "free ideals" and b) have seen this story for the bullshit it is, in that only one website requires Silverlight to watch the inauguration, whereas YouTube and many others will be showing it in Flash video.

    2. Re:So much for a tech savvy Whitehouse. by atraintocry · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm sure that they meant open as in open access. Assuming that they meant open software is a bit of a stretch.

      Oh! the injustice. Having to load a browser plug-in! You think Adobe would handle a monopoly in any market differently than Microsoft? You must not use their products, then.

      If you are from the US and voted for Obama because you thought his platform was somehow anti-Microsoft, then, frankly, you're an idiot. This is it though...*this* is what lifted the veil and caused you to see the world for what it is. Silverlight. When there are lots of other options available, no less (maybe that's what they meant by "most open"?) Your trolling needs work.

    3. Re:So much for a tech savvy Whitehouse. by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am sure you have this backwards - Micro$oft probably made campaign contributions to Obama and Obama owed M$ the favor....

    4. Re:So much for a tech savvy Whitehouse. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People who spell that company's name "Micro$oft" give me flashbacks to 1997. Firstly because they need to grow up, and secondly because they haven't moved on since then.

      On the other hand ... neither has Microsoft.

    5. Re:So much for a tech savvy Whitehouse. by SerpentMage · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, but your sound of reason will fall on flat ears with the Slashdot crowd. After all what is more important than having technology [fill in blank] being accessible?

      I was reading in OSNews an article that talked about accessibility and one poster said the following (paraphrasing)

      Is it really that bad that only certain operating systems are followed? For if you try to be completely open you will annoy somebody. After all what is to say that somebody using Haiku or some other esoteric operating system?

      The point is that you are going to annoy somebody... At least the Obama camp knows that there is an Internet! And that it is not made of tubes....

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      "You can't make a race horse of a pig"
      "No," said Samuel, "but you can make very fast pig"
  2. Re:Humm... by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many of the people held there are simply too dangerous to let go. Many of the others who aren't have no where to go

    The US Department of Defense operates many military prisons. They can all easily be transfered to a military prison within the US. They were only held offshore to avoid jurisdiction, and that point's been rendered moot.

  3. Re:Humm... by Bertie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most reasonable people would acknowledge that it's going to take awhile to close down Gitmo. Many of the people held there are simply too dangerous to let go. Many of the others who aren't have no where to go -- their home countries won't accept them. It should be obvious that you can't just close the facility down and give everybody there a bus ticket home. Obama has committed himself to ending torture and finding a safe way to closing down Gitmo. What more do you want?

    Call me a woolly-minded old liberal, but they could always, y'know, try them, and either bang them up legitimately or let them go as appropriate.

  4. Re:WRONG! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Especially since Silverlight is a brand new technology with small market share(flash is around 94% last I checked). This is much different than complaining about having to use popular, longer-lasting MS software such as Word or Visual Studio.

  5. Re:Stupid submitter by heffrey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those running Windows 9x are out in the cold too.

  6. Re:Humm... by SwedishPenguin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't that sort of the point of closing gitmo? To try them in a court of law, as opposed to hold them illegally and indefinitely without trial?

  7. Re:The story is crap, but by WiiVault · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I refuse to support Silverlight for the same reason I won't support the Xbox. I simply do not want MS to dominate any more markets. We all should know by now that when that happens, things get bad.

  8. Re:False, false false... by Ilgaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is Intel only. Lots of people , especially G5 home/business users excluding big time gamers didn't upgrade to Intel yet. Apple knows this fact very well as they still ship iLife/iWork 09 as Universal binary. Adobe Flash 10 for example is both universal binary and recently SMP enabled for PPC dual G4s etc.

    Like the dotcom boom days, MS can air a "exclusive Madonna concert" via silverlight, to make it popular and make people install it but this event isn't a Madonna concert or a Hollywood trailer. They couldn't convince their own OS users yet.

  9. Re:The story is crap, but by eaa428e6f46aa9f93f47 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It may be the most perfect software ever written, but it is not open, its not free, and its not inclusive. So its exclusive, proprietay, and elitist. On top of that it doesn't do anything significantly better than the competition they are trying to use their market share to squelch. Its just a f'n shame that our leaders who espouse freedom, don't get it.

  10. Re:Hulu? Youtube? by msuarezalvarez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't you think that the very point is that this is the *official* site we are talking about?

  11. May I respectfully suggest the damn TV? by slightly99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh my God, turn on the damn TV, it'll be on every frakking channel. I am so sick of techies having hissy attacks because every damn thing isn't instantly streamed to their iPhone or twittered to their PSP.

  12. Anti-competitive my rear. by coryking · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mod me down if you must, but what, pray tell, is anticompetitive about Silverlight? How does it block competition? If anything, it is anti-anti-competitive in that it forces Adobe to improve.

    More important, and more pro-competition is that it forces the luddites at the W3C to get their act together and produce something useful for once. For too long W3C has been able to produce crap because they assumed that developers had no choice but use HTML and CSS. Having two plugins that run on the majority of target browsers breaks that "monopoly" the W3C holds on developers. We now have a choice to develop complex, in-the-browser interfaces using something other then their standards.

    For too long the W3C has held a monopoly over web developers. Hopefully Silverlight will light a fire in their ass because if it doesn't, the web will be stuck in the stone-age for quite some time to come.

    1. Re:Anti-competitive my rear. by Macthorpe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's anticompetitive because it doesn't run on Mac PPC, Linux and FreeBSD? RFTS.

      Firstly, Apple don't support Mac PPC anymore, why the fuck should anybody else?

      Secondly, Linux and FreeBSD account for less than a single percentage point of the desktop market. Even so, you have people working on it.

      Thirdly and finally, you don't have to watch at the official site. There's probably a hundred places online you could watch it. If you don't want to use Silverlight - don't.

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      "It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him." - Tolkien
    2. Re:Anti-competitive my rear. by Wovel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      80% of /. never heard of the presidential inaguaration comittee web site.
      90% of the remaining 20% will not watch any of it over the Internet (Perhaps TV!!).
      90% of the remaining 10% of 20% will watch a stream from a major media outlet (CNN, CSPAN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, CBS...)
      99.9% of the remaining 10% of 10% of 20% will be using Windows or OSX (Intel-Mac)
      The President elect would like to extend his heart felt apologies to Chuck in Ohio.

  13. Re:Huh? What? by gtbritishskull · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But, when you become president, everything you do is a political statement. Everything done by your administration is your responsibility. He chooses the people below him, who choose the people below them. It is his job to choose people who are politically savvy and take things like this into account. Comes with the territory. So he is to blame.

  14. Re:MOD PARENT UP by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are misleading as well. The Obama team has been heavily focused on using the Internet, and their choice Internet deliver methods is very important. The choice to use Silverlight 2, and offer no alternative for users who cannot use that platform (PowerPC users, people with out of date computers, etc.), and to offer no non-streaming alternative (for people without reliable Internet connections, or who want a copy on their hard drive without worrying about copyright issues), indicates something about their "tech savvy campaign." The outsourced their content deliver to some company that sounds like the 2009 equivalent of a dot-com, and gave no consideration to any tech issues beyond what the latest buzzword is (hint: web enabled streaming media).

    Yes, the TV option is still available, but this team has not given it much attention. This team is setting a precedent in streaming the proceedings, and future presidents will follow this example. My biggest concern is that, over the next decade, the ability to record a TV program will only be available to those who pay for "DVR service," likely locked down to prevent users from keeping copies without paying, and that if that happens, and these proceedings are streamed by websites like YouTube, people will lose their ability to keep personal copies of government proceedings. Most people will just shrug, but for some activists, the ability to record the government is important and should not be lost because of misguided efforts to be "tech savvy."

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  15. Kids these days... by coryking · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look, you choose to use an operating system built by essentially hobbyists in their spare time. Not everything is gonna work--that is a feature not a bug. And while I hate to say it, if you dont like that, perhaps you could dedicate some of your time to Moonlight so that you *can* use Silverlight stuff. Don't expect people to use their non-free time to develop software for a free operating system.

    And yes, I do contribute to the free operating system I use in production environments--FreeBSD. I've contributed many ports to build and install CPAN modules. If something isn't in the ports tree and I need it, I don't just expect somebody else to put it there nor do I bitch, moan or cry--I take the time out of my day and write the damn port myself. That is how open source works--you give back to it and everybody benefits. If I didn't give back, I'd be a leech. That is also one of the biggest flaws in open source, you have to have the skills *to* give back, and not everybody does.

    Silverlight exists, it is an amazing platform, and soon enough it will become widely adopted. Accept it as fact, and either either get used to being left out or get started working on Moonlight or something like it. Calling me a "Microsoft fanboy douche" will not result in the open source faeries giving you Silverlight support. You have to make it work!

    Getting shit to work is what Linux is all about (or at least was all about). Back in the day, your only reward was the pride you got by getting $IMPOSSIBLE_DEVICE to work on Linux! Now I guess Linux is all about the politics of getting something for nothing. Sad. ...Now get the hell off my lawn!