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US CTO Choice Down To a Two-Horse Race

theodp writes "Barack Obama apparently didn't return CmdrTaco's call. BusinessWeek reports that the choices for the first US CTO have narrowed, and it's now a two-horse race between Padmasree Warrior, Cisco's CTO, and Vivek Kundra, who holds the same title for the Government of the District of Columbia. Two very different resumes — which would you advise Obama to pick?" I just know I was #3 on the list.

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  1. Cisco vs. Wash DC? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, Cisco sucks. And the government of D.C. sucks. So if I had to choose, I'd go by whoever was wearing the longest tie last time I met them.

    1. Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Right, the government sucks, so by no means should you consider working for the government, even if the point of the particular job they're offering you is to make the government less sucky. I guess the suckiness of government is somebody else's problem.

      You know, your attitude sucks.

    2. Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? by rufus+t+firefly · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod parent up. Never understood this particular American obsession with tearing down the government and then proudly claiming it sucks. Sounds insane to me.

      Blame Ronnie Raygun. He popularized the idea that "government is the problem", while blowing enormous quantities of money on militarization, possibly in hopes of bankrupting the federal government. Never trust someone to run something when they believe it's a stupid idea to begin with, they'll usually just mess it up.

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    3. Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? by KeithJM · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, Cisco sucks. And the government of D.C. sucks.

      Right, the government sucks, so by no means should you consider working for the government

      I won't defend the guy's attitude, but if you RTFS (S = summary), one of the candidates worked for the Government of DC. So he wasn't saying "All governments suck so I wouldn't work for one," he was saying "the DC government sucks so I wouldn't promote one of their C?Os."

    4. Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? by Roxton · · Score: 5, Informative

      "He popularized the idea that "government is the problem"

      Actually that idea was popularized by the founding fathers who knew that Government sucked so bad that it needed a leash

      Uh-huh. You do realize that one of the first actions of our founding fathers was to buy up state debt to establish national credit, right?

    5. Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? by WCguru42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The government really began to stink it up when it became possible to make a career out of being a politician. Back in the day, and I mean way back when, work in the US government was considered a service to the country and not a means to make oneself rich. The combination of capitalism and government was a terrible idea and there needs to be some reform to change the wealth in the political system. Just my personal opinion.

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  2. Option 6 by IceCreamGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sorry Mr. Taco, I have to go with the CowboyNeal option here.

  3. How about... by Improv · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Iraqi Information Minister? He'd at least be entertaining..

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    1. Re:How about... by mikkelm · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's no Iraqi information minister here. There are no Iraqi information ministers within a hundred miles of this post.

  4. Doesn't matter by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Either way, the position is going to be mostly a figurehead. Unless Obama delegates some serious executive power over the federal bureaucracy, this will just be a cushy job for the next several years.

    The CTO needs to be able to override agency decisions, put mandates on them and punish them for non-compliance. I seriously doubt that Obama is going to go that far. One of the first ones should be to stop the Oracle lovefest, and make it federal policy to stop using Oracle on most federal systems that have less than a few hundred users.

  5. is this the best they can do? by Dan667 · · Score: 5, Informative

    seriously? I worked at Motorola when Padmasree was there and I have seen more tech success in that period watching my lawn grow.

    1. Re:is this the best they can do? by CE@UIC · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'll second that. I also worked for Moto during that time also and the only impressive thing that came out of the office of the CTO was the lack of innovation coming out of the office.
      The CTO of the country doesn't need to be someone with an impressive resume who's never actually done anything or created anything substantial, it needs to be someone who has actual experience innovating and growing innovation.

  6. Vivek by duffbeer703 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Is a big advocate of Google -- he transitioned the entire city government to Google Apps.

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  7. Re:Answer is obvious? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Informative

    the dude from cisco is a woman.

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  8. Ungrateful twat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You leeches, you scrimp on your taxes, never thank the government, and then have the gall to tar all public servents - people who spend their best years serving YOU - with the same, tired accusations. Tell me, how to you square the 'public service = cushy' claim with the 'US = most powerful country' circle? Do you think the infrastructure, social safety net, military, judiciary, etc., all just run on automatic?

  9. Re:Cisco Guvmint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    On the basis that Cisco functions and makes money, while DC is a disaster, Cisco_guy++.

    Have you ever worked with Cisco? I have and it was a nightmare. They are a horribly inefficient bureaucracy that makes money by leveraging their existing client base and giving purchasers all the hookers and blow they need to get them to sign. They owned 10% of a company I worked for, then decided to buy one of our failed competitors and try to compete against us. Said competitor failed for a reason, so when that flopped they tried to strong arm us into canceling our product in that market. When that failed they spent millions more to buy two more firms we had driven out of business because their products were so much worse than ours.

    Their main problem is that they can make okay hardware, but they suck at software and they really, really, really suck at user interfaces and integration of products. Their corporate ethics are in the toilet with their standing layoffs policy and they're more than happy to push crappy solutions on all their "partners" and big customers while forgetting to mention that they won't touch the same solution with a ten foot pole for use on their own network.

    So yeah they're terrible, which is still probably not as bad as Washington DC.

  10. Re:Answer is obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The "dude from Cisco" is a woman. But she's not really "from" Cisco, she came there in the past year from Motorola. And my impression is that she didn't do that great a job at Motorola, and I haven't really heard anything worthwhile out of her while she's been at Cisco. So, I'd go with the other dude.

  11. Re:Answer is obvious? by ecn5093 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Obviously you have done zero research into these two candidates. To begin with the "dude from Cisco" is a female who used to be CTO for Motorola. Let's take a look at how well Motorola had been doing under her "direction". They are still feeling the ill effects of that. While I know nothing about Vivek, I do know that I would not want someone who has run a historically innovative company like Motorola into the ground!

  12. Warrior == Poor by Masters+Champion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't say anything about the other person, but Ms. Warrior would be a disastrous pick, IMHO. I had some contact with her when she was CTO at Motorola and I came away from that experience thinking she was:

    1. Was a poor leader
    2. Did not consider opinions other than her own on making decisions.
    3. Was really not very knowledgeable
    4. Was only out for her own advancement


    Perhaps these are the attributes of many successful executives, but don't strike me as qualities you want in a civil servant.

    Did you ever have contact with a person of real power/wealth/influence and come away thinking "How did they EVER get to where they are?" The older I get, the more I think success requires some work + many connections + a lot of luck.

    It looks like the last might strike Ms. Warrior here again pretty soon.

  13. Re:Cisco Guvmint by Valdrax · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So yeah they're terrible, which is still probably not as bad as Washington DC.

    I'd like to point out that the guy from Washington DC also has private sector experience if you're worried about icky public sector cooties getting all over your new public sector employee. He's also very big on open and transparent government. His resume's a bit light to figure out how good he'll be, but he's probably got a huge leg-up on working with people in Washington.

    The lady from Cisco, however, managed a doomed subsidiary of Motorola based on an uneconomical GaAs-on-Si technology before eventually presiding as CTO over the continued slow decline of a company that hasn't had an exciting product since the RAZR years ago before moving on to fill a position at Cisco which had been vacant for two years. While she does want to see more funding for fundamental research and development (not surprising given her fabrication background), the association with Motorola and Cisco does not scream the best and brightest of the private sector to me. Given her academic credentials, she's probably very brilliant, but I don't see how that's translated into success for her companies.

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  14. Kundra has been kicking butt in DC by gabroo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most posts here seem to be generalizations based on little to no facts, and I can't see how that's helping the discussion.

    Can't speak for the Cisco lady, but Kundra has been kicking serious butt in DC. He's run tech start-ups and runs his agency the same way: aggressive, frugal, and with little tolerance for those that don't performance. Here's a Washington Post article on him from a few weeks ago: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/04/AR2009010401235.html

    He created hundreds of data feeds in his first few months in office to make DC one of the most open governments around. Then a few months ago, he hosted an open competition with $20k of prizes for anyone to create innovative applications using these data feeds.

    1. Re:Kundra has been kicking butt in DC by aestas · · Score: 5, Informative

      I totally agree. As a citizen of DC, I can attest to how Vivek has revolutionized the city. Anything that needs to be done from a simple change of address to locating the closest snow plow can be found online. The new WMATA website allows me to get real time trane information to ensure there is no waiting on the platforms - and even better this can all be done from my iPhone - drive by Vivek's "Apps for Democracy" contest.