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Presidential Inauguration Hardware and Other Challenges

holy_calamity writes "The FBI has released images of some of the kit that will be deployed to safeguard Obama's inauguration, including mine-proof armored trucks like those used in Iraq to protect against IEDs, and a large armored chamber that any bombs will be shoved inside to be transported away and perhaps detonated inside. Interesting, even though the really good stuff is presumably being kept under wraps." Relatedly, necro81 writes "The Inauguration of Barack Obama tomorrow is expected to put considerable stress on the cellphone network around Washington, DC. The expected crowd could top two million people, and many of them are expected to call, text, tweet, photo, and blog their way through the event. In response, the major wireless carriers in the area have spent millions of dollars upgrading their local networks and will bring in extra 'cells on wheels' (COWs) and 'cells on light trucks' (COLTs). They are also requesting that attendees limit their usage during the event, and avoid bandwidth-heavy activities — like uploading photos — until afterward."

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  1. Yeah by Jonah+Bomber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good luck with asking people not to upload photos during the event.

    1. Re:Yeah by Authoritative+Douche · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oops. CNN is advertising an address to upload all your photos taken throughout the day so they can stitch them together to make 360-deg VR photos available as close to real time as they can (several minute delay).

    2. Re:Yeah by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps I'm showing my age, but I don't understand the appeal of texting. First off, emailing is free so there's no point paying for a text. And second, I'd rather HEAR the person I'm communicating with. The cost is only 18 cents a minute, and you can communicate far more information with that 18 cents of talking than with a 5 cent text.

      Another disconnect is the fuss about downtime.

      So what? When I was growing-up, we didn't just lose our cellphones; we lost our electricity! A blizzard comes through; goodbye electricity. A tropical storm tears down the line; goodbye electricity. One time the lightning followed the line from the street, into the barn, killed one of the horses, and then turned half our electric fence into ash. ----- So based upon those experiences, not being able to sending a photo wirelessly seems incredibly trivial. At least you don't need to fear freezing to death or having barbecued horse to clean up.

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    3. Re:Yeah by the_weasel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I send you a text, you respond when you have time. I call you, you have to choose between ignoring me and taking my call. Texting is asynchronous, where a conversation is synchronous. Granted, I can communicate more information in a short amount of time with a phone conversation, but if my issue is non-critical then texting is often more effective.

      I am talking about texting from a business prospective here. I often text sales staff on the road, who may well be in a meeting, or contractors on a noisy job site. A director in a meeting with an artist. In all these cases texting not only gets them the information they need without them having o interrupt some other task, it also avoids the need for them to grab a pen or some other device - I just include the information. No lost or misunderstood numbers or names.

      Now social texting does confuse me. "OMG! I am at the inaugaration". Why???

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    4. Re:Yeah by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 2, Informative

      First off, emailing is free so there's no point paying for a text.

      There is if you want someone to get it when you send it as opposed to whenever they might decide to check their e-mail, and believe me, not everybody checks their e-mail every few minutes.

    5. Re:Yeah by segwonk · · Score: 2, Informative

      www.cnn.com/themoment Heard it on NPR earlier today.

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    6. Re:Yeah by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, it's a Microsoft Photosynth promo event - that's the "VR" that they're using.

  2. Twitter is screwed. by Rayeth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Twitter's service is likely to be as screwed as the cell network with millions of people around the country tweeting about how they just saw (on TV, Internet or in person) Obama swear in, etc. Expect the service to be down most of the day imo.

    1. Re:Twitter is screwed. by Reapman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And nothing of value was lost... sorry had to say it, mod down as you will!

    2. Re:Twitter is screwed. by megamerican · · Score: 4, Funny

      Expect the service to be down most of the day imo.

      That's change I can believe in.

      Sadly, that's about all I can look forward too but that's another discussion alltogether. :)

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    3. Re:Twitter is screwed. by Rayeth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For the most part I actually agree with you. I am not really looking forward to the deluge of updates that are in store. Especially considering the number that already are showing up, "OMG only 2 days left to end the worst 8 years ever!"

      Which would be fine, but clearly most of these people haven't even been voting age for 8 years -- let alone 12. So don't mind it when I don't trust their opinion on the state of the state as it were.

      Its great that young people are more involved in politics now, I think that is a good thing for the country. Though I wish they would stop complaining about a single President and worry more about how to fix the things they don't like instead of hoping for a magical Obama panacea

    4. Re:Twitter is screwed. by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those who turned 18 and were eligible to vote for the first time in 2008 were in elementary school when Bush was (s)elected. He's been in office pretty much the entire time they've been aware of politics at all. Given what a horrorshow both his terms have been, they can, I think, be forgiven for seeing Obama as something special. It's kind of like what happens to an abused kid who grows up, gets out of his parents' house, and realizes that there are people in the world who won't beat the shit out of him every time he opens his mouth -- sooner or later, he'll realize that the world contains good people and bad ones in about equal measure, but at first, just about everyone is going to seem wonderful in comparison.

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    5. Re:Twitter is screwed. by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm going to spend the data watching the coverage over the rabbit ears/antenna. Yeah I know... old-fashioned 60-year-old technology, but it still works. :-) It will be the last time a presidential inauguration was broadcast using analog NTSC.* After tomorrow it will be broadcast exclusively in HD digital.

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      *(Technically the last time will probably be in 2013, since Mexico still uses NTSC, but I don't live there.)

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  3. Re:Huge waste of money by tsalmark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He is not actually in charge until after the ceremony. I don't think he has as much say in this as you imply he does, not that I see him complaining.

  4. Pretty spectacular by Haoie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's certainly been a vast advancement in technology [especially communications] since early 2001.

    So that's technology like social networking, blogging, microblogging, webcasting, etc etc.

    It'll be a memorable event.

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  5. COWs and COLTs by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Surely there is no need for two new buzzwords. The light trucks have wheels so they are also COWs. Or do COLTs only work for OMG Pink Pony calls.

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    1. Re:COWs and COLTs by snowraver1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Killjoy. This is cool stuff. I would guess that the COW is a trailer and the COLT is a truck. I've always been facinated with satellite communications, and this looks really neat. I would love to be the guy that gets to drive that beast in, fire up the generator, press button one for the mast and radios, then button two for the auto aligning satellite. All this while onlookers stare in wonder.

      On another note, this must have taken A LOT of planning. You usually can't just throw more cells in all willy-nilly. They would have to lower power on nearby cells and maybe even temporarily put cells on different frequencies to free up space for these microcells.

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    2. Re:COWs and COLTs by halcyon1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Surely there is no need for two new buzzwords.

      And I gotta tell you: fellas.. you have got what appears to be a dynamite inauguration! I'll be honest.. fellas, it was communicating great. But.. I could've used a little more Bell COWs!

  6. I'm in DC and not going by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I'm going to try to use up some bandwidth anyway, you know, just to make visitors' lives a little less fun.

    1. Re:I'm in DC and not going by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Good luck with that! I was going to say that the only way to make a visitor to DC's visit less fun would be to shoot then rob them, but that's pretty much already on the itinerary, isn't it?

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  7. Right wing garbage by thedogcow · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh please, this cost myth is just your average right wind Drudge myth garbage. Check this article out. They are claiming the Obama inauguration will be 160 million. Well the 2005 Bush inauguration was 157 million. Not much difference folks.

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    1. Re:Right wing garbage by Slur · · Score: 2, Informative

      Regardless of your political leanings, when it comes to debunking media distortions Media Matters rules!

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    2. Re:Right wing garbage by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the article is wrong perhaps you could be kind enough to point out the logical or factual errors?

      Of course everyone claims something, but not all claims are equal. Some are backed up by facts while others are pure fabrications.

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    3. Re:Right wing garbage by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Informative

      GPP's use of the word "they" was a little unclear. The point is that Drudge, Limbaugh, et al. are claiming that Obama's inauguration will be much more expensive than Bush's, while Media Matters (and numerous other sources) are setting the record straight. The right-wing noise machine is saying that Obama's inauguration is costing ~$160 million (true) while Bush's only cost ~$40 million (false.) They get the difference in the figures, IIRC, by leaving out the cost of security for Bush but including it for Obama. The fact is that Obama's inauguration is barely more expensive than Bush's in absolute dollars, and factoring in inflation over the last eight years, it's probably cheaper.

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    4. Re:Right wing garbage by mrlibertarian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Regardless of your political leanings, when it comes to debunking media distortions Media Matters rules!

      Regardless of your political leanings? They say in their 'About Us' page that they're only interested in misinformation that forwards the conservative agenda. That's a shame. Why not correct misinformation from all sides?

  8. Re:Huge waste of money by megamerican · · Score: 2, Informative

    Every time a controversial vote came up, he passed unless he had a carefully-polled stance already prepared. His entire campaign was based on taking the most popular position on everything.

    Not true. He voted to give the telecoms retroactive immunity which everyone was against. He voted for and was a major cheerleader for the banker bailout bill. Both bills were extremely unpopular.

    He has also mentioned "sacrifice" and national service over and over again, which I doubt is very popular. Biden and Obama have both said their policies are not going to be popular but we should just trust them! I seem to remember the last administration saying the same thing. Except now if you don't like their policies you'll be both unpatriotic and racist.

    It always seemed like people refused to look at what Obama says rationally because they are so blindsided by hatred for Bush and the repitition of "change" and "hope."

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  9. Re:Huge waste of money by amRadioHed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So Bill Clinton was a traitor, but not the guys who outed a CIA agent? I hate to point it out but your bias is showing. How embarrassing.

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  10. Re:Huge waste of money by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wish there was some sacrifice. All I see is two trillion in bailout/stimulus pork.

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  11. You can't stop a determined assassin, period. by plasmacutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can't stop a determined assassin.

    Prepare for one thing and they'll use another, and never, ever underestimate the effectiveness of someone willing to trade their own life for the life of the target.

    I'm not saying this to brew fear, i'm saying this to point out there is a reasonable point at which marginal returns to extra security diminish, and a point at which flexibility (hence my example) is more important than durability.

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    1. Re:You can't stop a determined assassin, period. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So we assume that the various assassins who were stopped just weren't determined?

    2. Re:You can't stop a determined assassin, period. by twostix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Tell that to Fidel Castro 638 foiled attempts - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/aug/03/cuba.duncancampbell2

    3. Re:You can't stop a determined assassin, period. by kperson · · Score: 2, Funny

      You never really have to say "ever" after "never". It actually reduces the effect of your sentence, like adding the word "actually". Um, I mean...

  12. That's so nice.. by blueforce · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's so nice that the picture inside the mobile command center has a split screen monitor with the food network, themselves, days of our lives, and The Care Bears.

    How cute.

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  13. Care Bears? by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Note the Care Bears on the monitor in the mobile command center in photo 8. Gives me the chuckles. :)

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    1. Re:Care Bears? by N1ck0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's probably either "photoshopped" so they're not showing what's really on it. Or they have some pre-configured "guests without clearance are here" screen that they can change all the monitors to with the push of a button.

      Assuming these pictures didn't span multiple visits and taking the following into account:
      1. The shadows in all the pics show the sun is at a very low angle.
      2. The state of the trees, combined with green IVY in pic 3 indicate its mid-fall.
      3. In mid-fall sun would only be as low as the reflection in the bomb containment vessel in the mid/late-morning and the evening.
      4. The clock indicates it is 10:33:24 (can't be PM because of the sun)
      5. The upper left looks like a morning talk show, and the lower left looks to be a talk show, or game show. (the other is an interior cam)

      I can conclude that they most likely have tuned the TV to local over-the-air TV stations to show that they can both monitor the news and closed circuit feeds on their display system....

      But you know...just a hunch.

  14. Re:Huge waste of money by peragrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Clinton got a blow job from someone who wasn't his wife, and he is a traitor, yet Bush lied to the american public about every reason for invading Iraq and he isn't?

    Al queda hated saddam as much as we did, and didn't move into Iraq until after we did.

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  15. This "coronation" stuff is overdone by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This coronation-like ceremony is getting out of hand. A quiet ceremony in the Capitol, broadcast on TV, would be sufficient. That's what was done during WWII, when there were concerns about an attack on FDR.

    This is the first time an inauguration has shut down Washington, DC for two days. All the Potomac River bridges out to the Beltway are closed Monday and Tuesday. That's well beyond the impact of previous inaugurations.

    1. Re:This "coronation" stuff is overdone by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is the first time an inauguration has shut down Washington, DC for two days. All the Potomac River bridges out to the Beltway are closed Monday and Tuesday.

      And nothing of value was lost....

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    2. Re:This "coronation" stuff is overdone by TempeTerra · · Score: 2, Funny

      Obama's first act is to shut down DC for two days? Truly, our saviour is here! ;)

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    3. Re:This "coronation" stuff is overdone by Uberbah · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Morons. Millions of people aren't showing up because it's a big event, it's a big event because millions of people want to show up. If you want to be a WATB, start complaining at conservatives for running the country into the ground over the last 30 years, making people hungry for something different.

      It should also be pointed out that much like the lie about auto workers earning $71 an hour, the comparisons between the cost of Obama's inauguration (WITH the cost of security) and Bush's (WITHOUT security) are completely disingenuous.

  16. 911 by necro81 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My concern is what if something bad were to happen during the inauguration, and suddenly a million people whip out their cellphones all start calling 911, their family, news organizations, and generally broadcast an emergency to the world all at the same time.

    Anyone want to watch one of those expensive cell-towers on a truck burst into flames?

  17. Re:Huge waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wish there was some sacrifice. All I see is two trillion in bailout/stimulus pork.

    No, see, the average person is the one expected to make a sacrifice so that the higher-ups can continue to afford their expensive lifestyles.

  18. The point by ShooterNeo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The point of all this security isn't to stop a serious, well funded attempt to assasinate this man. As many people have pointed out, unless they kept the person in a bunker or in a series of undisclosed locations, a well funded team could probably harm him or her.

    Except...any sane organization has nothing to gain by killing this leader. Unlike a dictator, the president can be easily replaced with someone else, and routinely is swapped out ever 4-8 years. In fact, a reasonable person would expect a backlash. The real reason the U.S. government doesn't give two shits about the Palestinians is because they kind of seem like the same kind of guys who committed the 9/11 terrorist attacks. That's backlash.

    Any group that killed the American president would be crushed, and would never get anything they wanted.

    However, lone nuts and other poorly equipped people get mad at the President all the time. The secret service can probably stop such morons in almost all situations.

    Also, a lot of the security is reactive. Presidents who were killed in the past were usually killed by some kind of small arms attack. Hence the bulletproof limo and the ring of armed guards. If some other form of attack ever succeeded, god forbid, then security precautions might change. Such as eliminating public appearances entirely and doing everything via teleconference and holograms.

  19. Blame the NRA by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its because of the NRA. As of lately they have been circulating propaganda saying Obama WILL make handguns illegal. Ask anyone who is a member or reads Guns 'N Ammo. I am all for private ownership of firearms and the second amendment but the NRA is overreacting here.

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    1. Re:Blame the NRA by AaronHorrocks · · Score: 4, Informative

      In 1996, Obama said that he "supported banning the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns".

  20. Re:Huge waste of money by amRadioHed · · Score: 5, Informative

    Setting aside the obvious fact that the investigation was a multi-million dollar partisan witch-hunt, Clinton was in the end found to be not guilty.

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  21. Re:Huge waste of money by afaik_ianal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know that being impeached is not the same as being found guilty, right? You do realise Clinton was acquitted, right? It's like comparing two people who the public believe did something wrong: one has been ordered to stand trial, and acquitted; the other has not even been ordered to stand trial.

  22. big deal? by Eil · · Score: 3, Informative

    Now, I'm a pretty young whippersnapper (almost 30) but I cannot even recall reading about another presidential election that's generated this much hoopla. From the primaries, to the election, to the inauguration, it's all been full-throttle excitement. And not just from the press, but people on the street as well. Even my bigoted father and step-mother think he's just great.

    Is it because:

    A) He's the first halfway intelligent president our generation has seen?

    B) He has the most fucking fantastic marketing department ever?

    C) He's the first not-exclusively-white guy to take office?

    D) The Internet is enabling average people to express their opinions and reach out to each other more easily than ever before?

    E) Pretty much everyone wants Bush out of the White House, even the most right-leaning republicans?

    So are we witnessing history here (and not just because of the race thing) or has there been another presidential election with this much carnival atmosphere to the whole thing? This is a serious question. Ya know, for old people. (And historians.)

    1. Re:big deal? by foobarb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      D, E, and

      F) He sounds like he believes and means what he says.

      Clinton is smart but he lies when he opens his mouth. Obama somehow gives off credibility and authenticity ... one would hope by being credible and authentic, but we shall see. Integrity is rare anywhere, and you don't expect to see it in politicians anymore, at least not at the P level, because we've had a bad run of those here lately.

      IIRC the Kennedy election events were very similar in tone (rock starish). More swooning girls then. Media was slow but there was less of it, so speeches were broadcast and people listened to them. Rhetoric was more formal and poetic then, but less reality based perhaps.

      Then, as now, there was a renewed hope for dramatic change for the better, an end to the war maybe, a generational shift to the younger, more progressive culture. The euphoria in these hopeful elections arises from the unexpected possibility that we (well, many of we) just might find ourselves in a world that better reflects our own values and priorities.

      Both then and now opportunities opened up for women and minorities to move closer to parity with WASP (white anglo-saxon protestant) men and to have a chance to have our issues raised. Again, after years of corporate greed and government spying, the people today have more common ground than they did in the Kennedy era though, whether they realize it or not. Interesting times.

  23. Re:Huge waste of money by Uberbah · · Score: 4, Informative

    You don't follow politics much do you? Clinton got impeached for perjury, not for diddling the unattractive intern.

    Wrong. He was impeached because after the Republican Congress couldn't nail him for fraud (Whitewater) or murder (Vince Foster), or a parking ticket, they settled on a manufactured perjury charge.

    And Clinton didn't even lie, much less commit perjury.

  24. Missing Moderator option by FreshKarma · · Score: 2, Funny

    What I would give to be able to mod this +1, Crotchety

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  25. Re:Huge waste of money by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh, yeah b/c he lied under oath.

    Read the link, bitch. The only way to prove he lied is to have literally read his mind.

    Then pray tell why was Clinton disbarred?

    Because after Whitewater didn't turn out, Vince Foster didn't turn out, and their bogus witch hunt didn't turn out, Republicans had to settle for something. Real justice would have been throwing Starr and the Republicans in Congress in jail for malicious prosecution.

    So try your revisionist history somewhere else please.

    That is the history. Clinton didn't lie, deal with it. In fact, if he had said he had "sexual relations" with Monica, that would have been a lie under the courts definition, as he didn't put his cock in her. Deal with it.

    Finally, just to prove how full of shit Republicans were and continue to be on this issue, just look at Scooter Libby's perjury conviction next to Clinton's perjury acquittal . You had the exact same cocksucking Republicans who argued for Clinton's removal from office arguing for a pardon for Scooter Libby. Hell, Fred Thompson - who voted to convict Clinton in the Senate - gave a hilarious speech where he passionately called for the rule of law and passionately called for a pardon for Libby.

    Seriously, Republican party membership should come with free visits to a proctologist, so you poor bastards can get some help pulling your heads out of your asses.