Jumping To Ubuntu At Work For Non-Linux Geeks

twigles writes "I'm a network engineer, meaning I spend my days dealing with things like selective route advertisements, peering, and traffic engineering; I'm not a Linux admin or developer. About 6 months ago I finally got fed up enough with my experience on Windows XP to jump ship to Ubuntu 8.04, despite not having much Linux experience, particularly on the desktop. Read my ramblings for an engineer's take on taking what can be a pretty intimidating plunge for us Linux noobcakes."

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Traffic Engineer?

[Anonymous Coward]

Repeat after me, you are not an engineer.

Until you go through the same hell in college that degreed mechanical/electrical/aero/civil engineers go through in college and have a chance to obtain a PE, you are not an engineer.

Re:Traffic Engineer?

[RobinH]

I work in the same industry as you. IAAPE. I am "degreed" and I have a license, however it's not required for PLC programming, process control work, or even the general electrical design (though this should be done by an electrical engineer).

Since the entire system must meet the electrical code and pass an electrical inspection anyway, the only time we are required to get an engineer involved with an electrical control system is for the safety subsystem. In this case we need to get the safety system design approved by a licensed engineer, and they must inspect the implementation and sign off on it. In this jurisdiction they have to submit a "pre-start review" (aka a PSR) before we can let an operator touch the machine. Note that the safety design has to take more than just electrical design into account - it must take all sources of energy (mechanical, chemical, etc.).

Say what you want about "engineers", but "professional engineer" refers to your legal status as a professional, and therefore the fact that you have demonstrated an understanding of the legal and ethical obligations of that title. Contrary to popular opinion, it doesn't mean "you can be sued" (anyone can be sued; try practicing engineering without a license for a while and see how long it takes). What it means is that there are a specific set of work that can only be undertaken by a licensed professional, and the licensing procedure ensures that you are very well informed about your legal and ethical responsibilities, and the consequences if you fail. This is both to protect the public, and the image (and trust) of the profession in the public's eye.

So, as long as someone doesn't refer to themselves as a professional engineer when they're not, they don't practice engineering without a license, and they don't misrepresent their education on a resume (you can only get an engineering degree at a university - if you're an engineering technologist, that's fine), then I really don't care.

A Flock Of Seagulls?

[auric_dude]

Submit an article. Get people to view your hair style. Profit ??

No SFTP?

[dvice_null]

From TFA: "Also, there's no SCP or SFTP feature that I can find comparable to SecureCRT."

I don't know what SecureCRT is like, but you can use the file manager as SFTP client and bookmark pages if you want to. Or you can install Filezilla (the new version can handle SFTP also). Not sure what version comes with Ubuntu 8.04.

Re:No SFTP?

[Matt Perry]

SecureCRT uses tabs in a window for each session you have open. You can open a new tab with a "sftp>" prompt and enter sftp commands, although I think that using filezilla or a file manager like you mention is much easier.

The best part about SecureCRT is that you can install the lrzsz package on your Linux boxes and then use sz and rz commands in the remote session to send and receive files to/from your local computer. No need to mess around with scp, sftp, or opening other windows or tabs. It's very nice, and far easier and faster to use than other methods.

For password management try using KeePassX

[Anonymous Coward]

For password management try using KeePassX http://www.keepassx.org/
It's free and cross platform.

Password Program: KeepPassX

[Anonymous Coward]

Hello sir,

I think i read that KeepPassX can be used in Linux and Windows,
using the same repository.

Check it out!

Cheers

How would you replace Visio?

[tepples]

I ain't a fan of Linux but even I can do more than this dufus.

The only things he told us that he ran on virtualized Windows were Microsoft Visio and the password manager. With a viable alternative to Visio, he might not have been tempted to set up virtualized Windows in the first place. What would you have used to replace Visio?

Re:How would you replace Visio?

[markdavis]

>OOo Draw is like creating stick figures, its not even remotely a replacement for visio, any more than MS Paint is a replacement for visio.

Obviously you have not *really* USED OOo Draw's flowcart and diagramming features before; it is certainly no "Visio" but:

1) It is object oriented, and vector based
2) Objects can be labeled, grouped, scaled, etc
3) Objects can be connected with various connector types
4) Objects can be moved while retaining connections to other objects
5) Template objects can be created and used
6) Controlling styles can be used across objects

So comparing OOo Draw to MS-Paint is *far* more insulting than comparing MS-Visio to OOo Draw.

Re:How would you replace Visio?

[markdavis]

As far as I am aware, no, you cannot directly use Visio objects in OpenOffice. However, there are lots of objects available if you don't want to draw them yourself. For example:

http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2006/10/custom_openoffi.html
http://lautman.net/mark/coo/index.html

Or, you can convert many Visio VSS files into objects that *can* be read by other programs, such as OpenOffice. For example:

http://www.gnome.ru/fileformats/stencils.html

Will hardware vendors release their objects/stencils in something non-proprietary? As you said- not likely for now. But that doesn't mean OpenOffice Draw isn't perfectly capable of creating nice diagrams. In fact, people tend to grossly underestimate what can be done in OpenOffice Draw; mostly because many of the powerful features aren't immediately obvious and/or it is positioned more as a vector drawing program and not a diagramming program.

Humor in Slashdot

[troll8901]

You didn't hear the Whooooooosh!! flying past you?

I suggest buying these two products:

• Humor for Humans 3.1
• Common Sense for Humans 1.4

The open source equivalences require you to build our own databases (by reading lots and lots of Slashdot), which takes too long. These two proprietary products allows you to gain Humor and Common Sense capabilities instantly.

Sshfs is your friend.

[Kjellander]

It's so much easier to just mount the remote dir with fuse, that to use any client.

sudo apt-get install sshfs
sshfs user@host:dir/ dest/

And you're done. Use the normal file handler after that.

Don't want to type in passwords? Use ssh-keygen and ssh-add. Don't wanna type in the mount line? Just put them all in a bash script and mount them all first time you log in. Or get the old ones with 'history | grep sshfs' and tun it by typing in the number in front of the command after an exclamation mark, like so: '!679'

Re:My troubles switching to Ubuntu at Work

[TheNarrator]

We almost got roped into exchange at my job but I made them go with Zimbra. Zimbra acts like Exchange and windows users can't really tell the difference when using outlook. Now the windows people are happy and the Linux people are happy.

I think if we got an Exchange server it would have eventually sucked the whole company's IT infrastructure into Microsoft proprietary only. If there's one thing you can do at a new startup to save money it's to avoid MS Exchange and go with Zimbra. That's because once the camel's nose is under the tent the whole IT infrastructure gets sucked into the MS black hole and you're paying the yearly Microsoft tax on every component of your IT infrastructure. Zimbra helps limit the bottom line damage that the obligatory windows licenses create.

Re:Linux will not "get there" until this happens

[jamstar7]

Or, compile yourself and install via checkinstall. I'd think if you were halfways aware of how to administrate a Linux system, you already know how to compile a tarball. Checkinstall builds the package, .deb or .rpm, and installs it for you. Then, you can add the package to your local repository.