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Jumping To Ubuntu At Work For Non-Linux Geeks

twigles writes "I'm a network engineer, meaning I spend my days dealing with things like selective route advertisements, peering, and traffic engineering; I'm not a Linux admin or developer. About 6 months ago I finally got fed up enough with my experience on Windows XP to jump ship to Ubuntu 8.04, despite not having much Linux experience, particularly on the desktop. Read my ramblings for an engineer's take on taking what can be a pretty intimidating plunge for us Linux noobcakes."

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  1. A Flock Of Seagulls? by auric_dude · · Score: 3, Informative

    Submit an article. Get people to view your hair style. Profit ??

  2. No SFTP? by dvice_null · · Score: 3, Informative

    From TFA: "Also, there's no SCP or SFTP feature that I can find comparable to SecureCRT."

    I don't know what SecureCRT is like, but you can use the file manager as SFTP client and bookmark pages if you want to. Or you can install Filezilla (the new version can handle SFTP also). Not sure what version comes with Ubuntu 8.04.

  3. For password management try using KeePassX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    For password management try using KeePassX http://www.keepassx.org/
    It's free and cross platform.

  4. Re:Not again by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the guy's main point was "give it a try, you might just like it". It didn't sound in any way like he was trying to make you a convert, it was more for someone like him who as come to not exactly enjoy their windows experience due to all the bloat of modern day security apps business tend to require.

  5. Re:Who is this guy? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not only is he a nobody he offers little unique insight

    GASP! Wow, I never thought about it. You're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, Mr. Anonymous Coward!

  6. Re:What's wrong with Dia by Jantastic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why did he not replace Visio with Dia?

    Because he was running late for his appointment at the hairdresser

    --
    ...a fact which for the sake of a quiet life most people tend to ignore ~H2G2
  7. Re:Linux will not "get there" until this happens by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What to do when a developer distributes a .rpm but not a .deb, or the other way around?

    Use Alien.

    --
    "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
  8. Re:How would you replace Visio? by markdavis · · Score: 3, Informative

    As far as I am aware, no, you cannot directly use Visio objects in OpenOffice. However, there are lots of objects available if you don't want to draw them yourself. For example:

    http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2006/10/custom_openoffi.html
    http://lautman.net/mark/coo/index.html

    Or, you can convert many Visio VSS files into objects that *can* be read by other programs, such as OpenOffice. For example:

    http://www.gnome.ru/fileformats/stencils.html

    Will hardware vendors release their objects/stencils in something non-proprietary? As you said- not likely for now. But that doesn't mean OpenOffice Draw isn't perfectly capable of creating nice diagrams. In fact, people tend to grossly underestimate what can be done in OpenOffice Draw; mostly because many of the powerful features aren't immediately obvious and/or it is positioned more as a vector drawing program and not a diagramming program.

  9. What about Linux users moving to Windows? by Jim+Hall · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been a Linux user since 1993, when I was a student at university. Until 1998, I ran Linux as my primary OS, but kept a Windows partition on my home system to run some games. And since 2002 I've been fortunate enough to run Linux full-time at work. It has been a great experience so far. I didn't have any issues exchanging documents with others at work, and certainly my previous bosses didn't mind. But times change, I suppose.

    I've been asked to move back to Windows, at least for work. The difference between Windows (XP) and Linux (Fedora 9) has been shocking, to say the least. Since you often see blogs or tech articles (like the parent post) when long-time Windows users experiment with Linux for the first time, I thought it might be equally interesting for this long-time Linux user to blog about my first experience running Windows in over 6 or 7 years:

    Linux in Exile

    The short list of things I have run into in my first week of running Windows:

    • hardware support is definitely not plug-and-play (had troubles getting a simple laptop mini-dock to get recognized, same with the external display.)
    • programs look and act differently from each other (no common themes, inconsistent behavior, etc.)
    • MS Office (2007) makes it hard for me to write the documents I need to create for work.
    • Font rendering is poor.

    I haven't written yet about program look-and-feel; I'll do that soon. But I have noticed that MS Office acts differently from Notepad, from Media Player, and from the Windows local file browser.

    Also, ctrl-backspace is implemented differently just about everywhere - in some cases, it backspaces to the start of the word or field (what I expect) and elsewhere it only backspaces once, and in other cases it inserts a ctrl-backspace character!

    1. Re:What about Linux users moving to Windows? by Mspangler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "MS Office (2007) makes it hard for me to write the documents I need to create for work."

      Office 2007 makes it hard for EVERYONE to write the documents they need to create for work. It's very egalitarian in that way.

      Everything except 'paste values' in Excel is one extra click away from where-ever you are than was the case in Excel 2003, because you have to click on the menu to get the correct ribbon, then drill down into the tiny little arrow to get the dialog that has what you want.

      I actually do most of my word processing in Wordpad, as it lets me write without helpfully formatting everything the Ballmer Way. Then paste the text into the official company memo template, resave, and done.

      Fortunately I have no need to use Powerpoint. For this boon I hold my employer in great regard.

  10. Sshfs is your friend. by Kjellander · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's so much easier to just mount the remote dir with fuse, that to use any client.

    sudo apt-get install sshfs
    sshfs user@host:dir/ dest/

    And you're done. Use the normal file handler after that.

    Don't want to type in passwords? Use ssh-keygen and ssh-add. Don't wanna type in the mount line? Just put them all in a bash script and mount them all first time you log in. Or get the old ones with 'history | grep sshfs' and tun it by typing in the number in front of the command after an exclamation mark, like so: '!679'

  11. Re:My troubles switching to Ubuntu at Work by TheNarrator · · Score: 3, Informative

    We almost got roped into exchange at my job but I made them go with Zimbra. Zimbra acts like Exchange and windows users can't really tell the difference when using outlook. Now the windows people are happy and the Linux people are happy.

    I think if we got an Exchange server it would have eventually sucked the whole company's IT infrastructure into Microsoft proprietary only. If there's one thing you can do at a new startup to save money it's to avoid MS Exchange and go with Zimbra. That's because once the camel's nose is under the tent the whole IT infrastructure gets sucked into the MS black hole and you're paying the yearly Microsoft tax on every component of your IT infrastructure. Zimbra helps limit the bottom line damage that the obligatory windows licenses create.

  12. Titles by srobert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've got some special insight into this argument since I've been on both sides of it.
      I've been through all of the hell that you described above and gotten my BS in Mechanical Engineering from an accredited university. I've now worked as a Civil Engineer for several years, and have recently taken the PE exam. (I'll be retaking it soon. My score was one point too low).
      Before I got my degree, I was working my way through college part-time as ...an engineer. (Note what I'm doing with Capitalization here). Specifically, I was a stationary engineer and a member of the International Union of Operating engineers. I served a four year apprenticeship in order to be a journeyman stationary engineer. There can be a certain amount of "hell" associated with that process too (that most academics would underestimate).
      The title is traditionally applied in two different (and probably more) senses. The first, Engineer, is given to a range of professions requiring a high degree of mathematical, scientific, and a well-rounded academic education, that is (supposed to be) typical of at least a four-year college degree. The second sense, engineer, is to refer to members of a range of vocational trades that branched out of heavy equipment operations, (especially steam-powered equipment) in the nineteenth century. Both of these traditional uses of the term have well-established precedent.
      Today the academic Engineers would like to restrict the use of the term to distinguish themselves from the vocational engineers. But the latter naturally object to the loss of the respected title. My take on this is that vocational side underestimates the expectations that the most recent use of the term Engineer evokes. I would continue to have considerable respect for current members of my former trade, if they were to use the titles of "technician" and "operator" instead. But I suspect that many of my current colleagues, i.e. Engineers, don't adequately appreciate the difficulties encountered in acquiring a skilled trade and don't have much respect such titles or vocations.