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Monster.com Data Stolen, Won't Email Users
chiguy writes "There's been another break-in at Monster.com. It's surprising that there are still unencrypted passwords stored in database despite the previous hack, as is the decision to not email users — presumably so that no one will make a fuss. From PC World: 'Monster.com user IDs and passwords were stolen, along with names, e-mail addresses, birth dates, gender, ethnicity, and in some cases, users' states of residence. The information does not include Social Security numbers, which Monster.com said it doesn't collect, or resumes. Monster.com posted the warning about the breach on Friday morning and does not plan to send e-mails to users about the issue, said Nikki Richardson, a Monster.com spokeswoman. The SANS Internet Storm Center also posted a note about the break-in on Friday.'"
They did the mash. They did the monster mash.
When will companies face accountability for the damages they cause due to lax data security?
You don't think they make their money from posting jobs do you?
If only there was some kind of service where you could advertise for a network security guy...
I am a nigerian prince who wishes to hire you. I will send you a check for $60,000 to cover your employment of $55,000.
All I ask is that you purchase $5000 in laptops to send back to the parent company here.You can even keep one as your work computer.
As soon as we get the laptops we will send you another check for $100,000 to hire two employees. We only ask the extra $10,000 be sent back to the parent company.
In these economic times people don't seem to care so much about "silly" things like privacy and security when they're scrapping for a job. In a better economy, I think people would be more inclined to make a big fuss. Sad.
I went in to change my password to something over 25 characters, with letters (upper and lower), numbers and specials characters. It kept notifying me that the pass was not strong enough. I reviewed and followed the instructions, then extending it to over 50 characters. I received the same warning message even when clicking on the submit button - wtf?
After several attempts, I tried logging out and logging in with the new pass. Guess what, it did change!
Bad interface, bad notifications, bad programming , bad (or no) testing. No wonder they got had.
I mean really, if you can't design and code a simple change password feature....
If you have a Monster account cancel it and leave a note in the "why are you canceling?" box. Don't make it some rant, but make sure you explain that you will not tolerate their incompetence, their unwillingness to take security of their users personal information seriously, and their total lack of integrity by trying to hide the breech from their users. Then explain that you will try to get everyone you know to cancel their account for their own security. Finding jobs is all about networking...so is taking down misbehaving companies.
The only change I can believe in is what I find in my couch cushions.
I'm not terribly surprised. They have a casual approach toward development and quality assurance. In the early days of Monster at TMP Worldwide the QA department consisted of just two people - Fidelity demanded they focus more on QA so they brought me in (Fidelity was and probably still is their single largest account. At the time probably 75% of the jobs were Fidelity postings).
The code running the site was atrocious - and the web server consisted of a single DEC Unix box. They had terrible cross-browser issues (I can't remember if it was Netscape, which was still dominant at the time, or MSIE which completely broke). The developers had no clue what was wrong, so I did some digging and the issue was a lot of table cells and even table rows were never being closed. I logged the defects and was given access to the code (which was Datapult PF at the time - thank god it was not easy-to-write/impossible-to-read perl). I worked with the developers (coders, really) to identify where each type of cell was being generated, and where it should be closed. The code was such that I had to print it on a line printer and trace with pens where each cell was being opened, and there were a lot of cases where the code was not nested properly. It was UGLY. Well, after a few days I had fixed the bugs and it was rendering properly in "all" of the two major browsers, and even AOL.
(as an aside, Datapult PF was kind of neat - very readable and a much better alternative than ASP. I had taken the defect tracking system and enhanced it and wanted to clean up the database schema but there just wasn't time)
Then, by the time they closed the Framingham facility and moved to Maynard, the Fidelity contract had been finalized so they axed most of QA (read: all but one person) and offered me a job as a developer - for $38K, which was just slightly over half of what I was making as a QA engineer. I told them thanks, but no thanks, that $38K is actually quite insulting.
I don't know if they have a proper QA process and department in place, but back when I was there (1997 or 1998) the only people who liked the fact that there even was QA at all was the developers. Management, sales, etc. all hated us, and the parent company (TMP Worldwide) looked at QA as a cost center. They Just Didn't Get It then, and I wouldn't be surprised if they still do not have QA now and Still Don't Get It.
I don't know what they're running for a back end now, but the response headers say IIS 6.0 so I'd presume ASP.net. For .Net and PHP there are plenty of harnesses to test for SQL injection bugs, which If THey Get It, they would be running against the site, but far more likely it's a human issue (someone selling the info, since TMP Worldwide grossly under-pays permanent Monster employees, or at least did at the time) or the Windows server has a root kit on it (if it is in fact IIS 6.0) -- or is the result of an untested bridge to other systems they integrate with. If their modus operandi is still that of TMP Worldwide and they view QA as unnecessary unless a client demands it before awarding a large contract (Fidelity is a company which Does Get It) then I would not be surprised if QA personnel and processes are both totally lacking.
It was a fun contract - don't get me wrong. I liked the people I worked with, and I liked working with the developers to fix the problem, but TMP as a whole just doesn't get it. Monster needs to be run internally like a software company, since it is a large internally-developed software project which is CONSTANTLY being enhanced with more and more features and integrated with other systems (ad servers, etc.). It's not a small project by any means and proper QA from requirements through deployment and maintenance is the only way to minimize liabilities such as this.
As an aside: does anyone out there remember the sleeping monster? The sleeping monster was in place whenever code was being moved from the staging server to the live server, or when the Oracle database would go down. The sleep
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Log in, delete your resumes and cover letters, change your password to some random crap. Then, go to the preferences home page and there is a "cancel my account" option. Leave them a nice note explaining how the deserve to go out of business and where or where could they find a security person with a clue about hashed password storage.
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Actually, they make most of their money through large contracts from companies that post lots of jobs. Fidelity was their first large one, or so I heard before I was asked to come aboard, and was the reason they had ANY QA at all (see below) in the beginning.
TMP worldwide is the parent company of Fidelity and is (or was) one of the largest temp firms in the world. They created Monster so they could find recruits for their own clients - that was fairly well known at the time.
Now I suspect they make the vast majority of their revenue through advertising revenue. Ever go on the site and see all the advertising features? "In your face" hardly begins to describe it.
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The really kicker is the law requires the firm with a data breach to inform several state agencies AS WELL AS the person who's data has been compromised:
"The law requires that a person or agency that owns or licenses personal information about a resident of the commonwealth notify the attorney general, the director of consumer affairs and business regulation, and the affected resident if it "knows or has reason to know of a breach of security"
"Where is my mind?"
This is why I only use randomly generated passwords for these type of sites, and store them in my password safe. They may have gotten my monster password, but they won't be getting into anything else.
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Making a judgment on who to hire/promote/etc based on ethnicity is illegal in the United States, but an employer asking employees to voluntarily provide this information is legal, and in some cases necessary. Companies which win government contracts are required by law to file demographics data yearly. See http://www.eeoc.gov/press/9-12-06.html the EEO-1 requires companies with $50,000 in federal contracts and 50 employees to report to the government ethnicity, race and gender information on its employees.
Congratulations. You gave them grounds to not employ you based on the fact that you falsified information on a resume.
I don't disagree with your primary point entirely, but for goodness sake if you think that the result is sufficient evidence to prove discrimination, by all means file a lawsuit.
Telling Slashdot isn't going to help.
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Then why don't they file it after the fact that they've hired the qualified persons? They don't need to know that data beforehand.
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