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AT&T, Comcast To Join RIAA Team
suraj.sun writes "AT&T and Comcast, two of the nation's largest Internet service providers, are expected to be among a group of ISPs that will cooperate with the music industry in battling illegal file sharing, three sources close to the companies told CNET News. The RIAA said last month that it had enlisted the help of ISPs as part of a new antipiracy campaign. The RIAA has declined to identify which ISPs or how many. It's important to note that none of the half dozen or so ISPs involved has signed agreements. But as it stands, AT&T and Comcast are among the companies that have indicated they wish to participate in what the RIAA calls a 'graduated response program.'"
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No idea if this still holds true, but Verizon was the company that refused to hand over their logs to the RIAA all those years ago. They certainly earned my respect at the time, and they still have my business.
This guy's the limit!
You're probably right. I do quite a bit of consulting for K-12 schools; the watchword there is that once you attempt to filter content, you'd better filter perfectly, as you're responsible for anything that gets past. Does this translate into sanctioning your own users for inappropriate actions? I think it does.
You: "I downloaded a Backstreet Boys album without paying for it.."
*all the other cell occupants slowly back away*
I'd back away too.
After all, it's a prison, and the one most likely to be interested in you is the backstreet boys fan.
By dealing with the RIAA at all the ISPs are making a huge mistake. Is my utility company liable if I install grow lamps and start a marijuana farm because they failed to alert the authorities about the power increase? Is my phone company liable if I start calling the state prison regularly and it turns out that I'm organizing to have an informant killed because they weren't monitoring my phone records and didn't recommend a phone tap?
By playing along even in a small role, the ISPs are really stepping in it...
I could be wrong, but if there is a spike in usage of water or power, utility companies will inform police of a possible grow op.
This too shall pass. A couple of observations. First, P2P accounts for between one-third and four-fifths of internet traffic, depending on the entities collecting the data and the regions from where the data is collected. Either way, it seems like a lot. Second, internet usage continues to grow. People love YouTube, just wait until the quality improves. How many people are watching Netflix's Watch Now as a result of if being available on so many systems? Third, the economy will prevent many, if not most, ISPs from adding additional bandwidth. Thus, in order to keep up with increased legitimate demand without adding more capacity, it makes since that ISPs would want to reduce demand from file sharing. Simple, really.
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Liable-- don't know-- do they alert the authorities? hell yes
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Verizon passed the notice/letter on to you rather than giving your information to the RIAA/MPAA so that you could be named in a lawsuit. What happened to you is far more preferable than the other option. But if you don't want to believe that, that's up to you.
This guy's the limit!
No. It's likely that they'd illegally use a FLIR camera to look in your house before breaking down the door. Of course, when they get caught, they backpeddle.
No but the GP is close. The power company does look for odd balancing issues vs power usage. People who grow large quanities of dope tend to be a bit stupid and cheap. Including putting a couple thousand watts of lights on a single circuit in their basement. The in balanced loadis noticed by the power companies. Normally as long as you pay your bill they don'tcare. However the stupid and cheap part comes into play. They forget to pay their bill. And police eventually get called.
I know of several arrsetts over the years from just such situations.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
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If I have nothing to hide, you have no reason to search me
Exactly. I live in Atlanta, and I have Comcast cable internet. There are no other cable internet companies. And there is exactly one consumer-priced DSL comany. And you know who that is? AT&T! Fuck!
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, FUCK!!!
It makes me so mad that I want to go blow up the DSLAM or CMTS or whatever. FUCK!
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As far as I can tell, this only increases their liability. Services providers have typically received immunity from the actions of their users, so long as there is a clear line between the service provider and the actions of their users.
What you are referring to is "Common Carrier" status. It prevents companies like UPS from being criminally liable for shipping cocaine, for example, overseas. It also prevents Telcoms from being liable for carrying information used to conduct criminal activities. If they actually get involved, though, they lose common carrier, and thus can become sued (or charged) for anything that occurs over their network.
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Hey, I'm in the Philadelphia suburbs, and I get my DSL service from Voicenet. (Comes over Verizon wires, but Voicenet is the ISP). FWIW
Incidentally, ISPs are not Common Carriers. Their protection comes from the DMCA Safe Harbor provisions instead.
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"We shared our files via USENET ! And we LIKED IT!"
And we still like it, too.
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That decision against thermal-imaging cameras is quite silly, wouldn't that mean cops would need a warrant to look through your window?
No. It's based on "expectation of privacy". If you do something in front of a window that's open to the street, there's no real expectation of privacy. If you do something in your windowless bathroom, the expectation is that it won't be seen. If the cops look into your closed up garage, whether they use IR/thermographic imaging, X-rays, sonographic imaging, or a code scanner that opens your garage door, if they do so without a warrant, that crosses the line. Of course if they can convincingly say they thought it was allowed and it was "an honest mistake" when they violated your 4th Amd rights, the supreme court says that's OK.
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