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More Claims From NSA Whistleblower Russell Tice

eldavojohn writes "Russell Tice, former NSA employee & whistleblower, has revealed yet more details claiming that wiretapping was combined with credit card data to target civilians. He also suggests the CEOs of major companies hold the truth: 'To get at what's really going on here, the CEOs of these telecom companies, and also of the banking and credit card companies, and any other company where you have big databases, those are the people you have to haul in to Congress and tell them you better tell the truth.' Will Congress follow his suggestions?" This adds to information revealed by Tice last week that the wiretaps targeted journalists in particular.

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  1. Why don't they make the NSA tell the truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Instead of hauling in companies that have been threatened by G-men.

    Do we expect companies to not cooperate when law enforcement and government spies ask them for help?

    They need to start firing government employees that conduct illegal activites instead of going for the EVIIIILLL corporations.

  2. Cue daveschroeder by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Come on Dave, where's the long screed defending the Bushies?

  3. Re:Hard evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    No one in their right mind screws around with these people just to sell a book. It just isn't worth it.

    Are you saying Joe Wilson is crazy? Because he sure as shit did find that Saddam did try to buy yellowcake in Niger, yet he lied his ass off about that, and made himself and his wife (both Democratic contributors, BTW...) false martyrs.

    And now he's a "hero" to a bunch of loons.

  4. Re:Hard evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I expect nothing 'new' from obama. the machine is what matters and he's only a small cog; a figurehead. the machine LIKES power and will never give it up once it has it. have we not seen that play over and over, in history?

    obama won't be as evil as bush but he's human and will be corrupted by the power he received.

    Bush is/was not "evil". Enough hyperbole already. He might have been misguided or overzealous (I don't particularly think so), but not evil. Everything he did, whether you agree with his tactics or not, was to fight terrorism/protect the country. Hell, Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, but no one goes around calling him, "evil".

  5. Re:obama is better then bush, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    He needs to use his awesome power to send new teachers to the school in which you were educated. Then, you wouldn't type things like "in toto, has a LOT of jobs at his disposale".

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  6. Re:Hard evidence by sycodon · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    A gaffe is when you say there are 57 states in the union instead of 50. Although, I do recall he stopped to think about it before he said it.

    And I guess "progressives" know all about reiterating baseless assertions ad infinitum. they've had 8 years of practice.

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  7. Re:Hard evidence by Hal_Porter · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If you post comments on sites like Indymedia debunking their paranoid worldview they allways get removed by a moderator. Conspiracy theorists are in practice much keener on censorship than the governments they rant against.

    What's ironic about this is that it shows what a threat to a free society these people are. Now this sounds like a conspiracy theory in itself on the surface but consider. Marx had a very conspiratorial view of democracy, he claimed that it was manipulated by the bourgeoisie, hence the term 'bourgeois liberalism'. When Marxists came to power in Russia that gave them a theoretical justification for repressing the whole bourgeois class. Similarly Hitler thought that society was manipulated by the Jews and thus tried to wipe them out when he was in power.

    Cliques of people that all believe in some powerful group manipulating society will always go after that group once they are in power.

    Of course at the moment the conspiracy theorists are divided and are marginalised politically because most people simply laugh at them, but I'd say the government is right to be keeping tabs on them to make sure they stay that way.

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  8. Re:Hard evidence by sycodon · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Spoken like a true left wing snob.

    I guess you must be one of those with half a brain since you saw right through it eh?

    If you engage the other half of your brain and follow the thread you will notice that to start with, all I did was express an irreverant opinon of Barry that did in fact answer the question posed. From there is was just a bunch of spittle from folks who thought entirely too much of themselves.

    I guess Barry is sacrosanct on Slashdot. Too bad. I was hoping I could throw out a bunch of posts that merely said "Fuck Barry" and I would get modded Insightful.

    You guys need to lighten up. You have 4 years fun filled years to go! If this is how you react just a few days into Barry's term, you'll all be dead of strokes and heart attacks soon.

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