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Passwords From PHPBB Attack Analyzed

Robert David Graham writes "The hacker who broke into phpbb.com posted the passwords online. I was sent the password list, so I ran it through my analysis tools and posted the results. Nothing terribly surprising here; 123456 and password are the most popular passwords as you would expect. I tried to be a bit more creative in my analysis, though, to get into the psychology of why people choose the passwords they do. '14% of passwords were patterns on the keyboard, like "1234" or "qwerty" or "asdf." There are a lot of different patterns people choose, like "1qaz2wsx" or "1q2w3e." I spent a while googling "159357" trying to figure out how to categorize it, then realized it was a pattern on the numeric keypad. I suppose whereas "1234" is popular among right-hand people, "159357" will be popular among lefties.'"

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  1. Are they the problem? by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    someone 'analyzed' another password list for correlations and found nothing of inherit value to security of than 'people are a problem'.

    People are the weakest link in any security program. But does that make them the "problem" or does it mean that we're approaching security from the wrong angle?

    Passwords suck. People are not capable of memorizing enough entropy to provide more than one or two decent passwords.

    So do not focus on "strong" passwords as your only defense against attack.

    One approach is to encourage "weak" passwords (word.number.word) that users can write down ... but then focus on monitoring and login delays so that any attack will be detected before it even has a one in ten million chance of success.

    Thank you for registering at slashdot. Your password is kitten6apple. Please write it down. If you wish to change it, click HERE. There will be a 10 second delay enforced between login attempts and a 10 minute delay after 3 failed login attempts.

    There. As long as they don't store the passwords in the clear (or as hashes without including a random salt) you should be fairly "secure". At least "secure" enough for a "social networking" site.

    For your bank or other financial institution, you'd want a second, non-Internet-based, channel for verification of transactions. Such as an automated call to your phone.

    People are not the "problem". People's limitations SHOULD be part of the design specifications for the security program.

    1. Re:Are they the problem? by Glendale2x · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The other problem is that every damn thing on the internet now requires a login and password - so much that we start using crap passwords like "asdf" for sites like your phpbb forum login, which happens to be the same as the other 50 forums you have accounts on or ever needed to register for to ask a one-off question.

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