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Who Owns Application Delivery Meta-Data In the Cloud?

Random Feature writes "The Cloud Computing Interoperability Forum (CCIF) is currently discussing cloud portability specifications. It seems crazy to define a standard before we even know who owns what in the cloud because you can only port what you own. For example, if you created a security or acceleration policy for your cloud computing-based app, is the policy yours or the provider's? Who owns meta-data in the cloud?" True portability between clouds seems to hang on the answer.

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  1. Re:frist ps0t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    BUT, consider:

    1. No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.

    2. There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Nigger, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378 million according to the Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there's at least one good child in each.

    3. Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, and assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of his sleigh, jump down the chimneys, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course we know to be false but for the purpose of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc. This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

    4. The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (refer to point #1) could pull TEN TIMES the normal load, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload - not even counting the weight of the sleigh - 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison - this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.

    5. 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecrafts re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy per SECOND, EACH! In short, they will burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create a deafening sonic boom in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal* forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

    In conclusion - If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's dead by now. And he'd be a faggot.

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    *Please note that centrifugal is a made-up non existent word. The real word should be centripetal. Centrifugal is a made up force that physics people HATE! So please, everyone use the world centripetal, not centrifugal. Thanks!

  2. Re:frist ps0t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    K for your information, asshole, I have seen a lion. And not one of your crap ass queen of the jungle homoerotic pussy-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings and shit. Don't pull your fucking wierd ass african voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don't even know wtf you're talking about.

  3. Infrastructure solutions beta, trail and res kits by myspace-cn · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I see everybody got their disks from this month's Windows IT Pro magazine.

    Don't for get the Host requirements:
    10GB space
    2GB Ram
    2Ghz processor
    DVD drive

    All these questions and many more can be answered at:
    http://microsoft.com/forefront
    http://microsoft.com/systemcenter
    http://microsoft.com/ida
    http://microsoft.com/windowsserver2008

  4. Re:Infrastructure solutions beta, trail and res ki by myspace-cn · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I guess I was being sarcastic, but really ask yourself what did you agree to when you installed, or bought a monthly seat, or VLK? You agreed you sign your life away basically. But I see the discussion goes on who owns the meta-data for an app, I would have to say the security policy owns it. I shut your fucking port off, you no longer deliver your app. The rest doesn't matter. You don't like the provider, get lost.

  5. IaaS API standardization is already important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I work for ElasticHosts, a UK cloud computing infrastructure which is the first globally to be based on Linux KVM.

    For Infrastructure-as-a-Service (Amazon EC2, ElasticHosts, GoGrid, etc.), issues of data ownership are clear (the same as traditional VPS hosting), and there is already a valid need to standardize the basic access APIs that are used to start and stop servers on our respective cloud infrastructures. c.f.:

    Amazon cloud infrastructure API
    ElasticHosts cloud infrastructure API
    GoGrid cloud infrastructure API

    Since all these APIs achieve similar tasks, standardization would:
    - Simplify the job of the ecosystem (e.g. RightScale going multi-cloud)
    - Protect our enterprise customers, who are concerned about vendor lock-in.

    There are serious IaaS industry discussions, including via the CCIF, to get an API which is simple, common, and works. You can read more about ElasticHosts beliefs on designing a great API for cloud infrastructure.