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Miro 2.0 Launches Today

Posted by kdawson on from the on-the-wall dept.

soDean writes "Miro just launched their 2.0 release today. The free and open source HD video player and Internet TV features an all-new interface and an entirely rewritten UI engine, plus tons of new features and improvements — it's less of a collection of new stuff and more of a rethinking of the whole experience. You can download Miro 2.0 here for Linux, Mac, and Windows. Miro is developed by the Participatory Culture Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit, hell-bent on making Internet video more open and decentralized, along with a dedicated community of users, volunteers, translators, testers, and coders."

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  1. BugZilla sucks! by chill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To any developers, please listen carefully.

    From and end-user perspective, BugZilla is a complicated, confusing, steaming pile of shit!

    As an end-user I shouldn't have to "create an account", "login" or anything else to report a damn bug. Especially from a link within the program itself. A brief bit of text outlining what makes up a good bug report is fine, but I shouldn't have to jump thru hoops just to say "X is broken, here is how to reproduce it, here is my config".

    For other developers, it is fine. For end-users, it is a nightmare.

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    1. Re:BugZilla sucks! by chill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm perfectly capable of entering a useful bug report, but BZ is a pain in the ass. If you ask for end-user help, then you need to accommodate end user methods without trying to pretend you can turn them into developers.

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      Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
    2. Re:BugZilla sucks! by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention it is still another pain in the ass to have to register for a service that I only intend to use once.

    3. Re:BugZilla sucks! by dkf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some open-source projects get all the bug reports they can handle despite the difficulty. Ease-of-use improvements in Bugzilla which increase the number of junk bugs reported by people who can't be bothered to put a little effort into it may not actually be helpful.

      More of an issue is the fact that if you allow anonymous submissions, you tend to get a problem with spam. It's not generally difficult to deal with spam, but it does take time to triage and squelch.

      OTOH, in the past I've fixed important bugs that were submitted anonymously and where I've never been able to identify after the fact who did the submission. I've also had some users mention to me that they never submit bug reports where they have to identify themselves in the process. Prohibiting anonymous submissions does mean that you miss out on some things.

      On reflection, I'd suggest that only large should accept anonymous submissions, since that at least saves effort for things that are reported properly. Large projects have to decide for themselves whether they value anonymous reports or spam-freedom more; I'm in two minds about it, depending on whether I'm dealing with spam or bugs at the time. If you do allow anon submissions, make sure you've got a mailing list set up to track all changes in the bug DB, since that makes it much easier to see trouble...

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  2. Hell-Bent by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Insightful

    More organizations need the term "hell-bent on" in their mission statement.

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