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Senator Diane Feinstein Trying to Kill Net Neutrality

An anonymous reader writes "According to the Register, Senator Diane Feinstein is attempting to put language into the stimulus bill that would kill net neutrality. The amendment that her provision was attached to was withdrawn, but lobbyists tell Public Knowledge that Feinstein hopes to put it back into the bill during the closed-door conference committee that reconciles the House and Senate versions." Bad Senator! No Cookie!

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  1. I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, I thought it was the Republicans who were destroying America and the Democrats were going to save us? You mean to tell me that they are all beholden to business interests? Say it it isn't so!

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    1. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by kick6 · · Score: 5, Funny

      What amendment changed "government of the people, by the people, for the people" to "government of the politicians, by the politicians, for the corporations.?"

    2. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Insightful

      She's not a good Democrat. Step 1 for Democrats was to get more elected Democrats. Now that is accomplished, step 2 is to get better Democrats.

      Feinstein and many others will probably be facing primary challengers for the next election. We can certainly find better Democrats than these people.

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    3. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by LNX+Systems+Engineer · · Score: 5, Informative
      Slashdot!

      Feinstein's webpage has an e-mail me section, from which you can request a USPS snail-mail response. You know what to do!

      Ms. Feinstein,

      I do not believe it is your place to single-handedly eliminate this country's technological future by sneaking in an anti-net-neutrality provision at the conference committee.

      You should leave that decision up to your colleagues by introducing a separate bill. You wield a very might sword, one whose power you seem to be unacquainted with.

      Have some honor, respect, and dignity. For six of the last eight years, our country was plagued with a congress that did the sort of despicable things that I speak of - and you were thwarted from doing.

      Take the removal of your provision from the stimulus bill as a sign: this stimulus bill has no place legislating communications policy. You are sabotaging this country's Internet future.

      I should know, I work for one of our nation's largest telecoms and my team and I engineer the core networks that make the Internet possible.

      Please hear my plea of openness and transparency - we, the People, expect - and should receive - more from our leaders than shadow amendments inserted into much needed legislation.

      Thank you,

      Mr. XXXXXXX

    4. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by John+Anonymous · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Close, but no cigar. Corporations may be people in some legal respects, but they sure as hell can't vote. It's people like us who give politicians their jobs, and it's people like us who can just as easily take them away.

      Corporations are much more powerful than people: they are after all comprised of people, who can vote; they can "live" longer than people; they typically have much more money and resources than people, with which to lobby governments; and since there are generally many people working for a corporation, they have a lot more person-hours to spend on lobbying, etc. than a natural person.

    5. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by Retric · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We already have net neutrality. They want the ability to charge a website for bandwidth that their users are accessing. Now this might be silly but I assume people spending lot's of money lobbing for something only do so when they are planning to start doing it.

    6. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Removal of net neutrality would have some key effects:

      • An ability for ISPs to collude with large commercial interests/government to simply suffocate small operators and individual websites, particularly of "inconvenient" to the ruling elites' contents, by selling all the "priority" bandwidth to large corporations/government and throttling the rest severely. This allows for censorship and creation of monopolies all under a pretense of "market forces" at work.
      • It would mean the end to all peer-to-peer applications, large chunk of Internet gaming, small scale VPNs etc by introduction of massive latency resulting from now legalized throttling of all "not sufficiently profitable" traffic.
      • Massive increase of costs for most commercial websites, which of course would simply be passed on consumers, which would in turn drive prices up for Internet commerce significantly, all with absolutely no improvement to the operation of these sites and with an overall deterioration of Internet service in general as mentioned above.
    7. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by Reziac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then why do these idiots keep re-electing people like Feinstein? She's done nothing but raise taxes, vote away our rights, and spend money.

      THIS California resident votes for whoever the hell runs against her, but it's a lost cause so long as she has all that name recognition.

      "Democracy: that ultimate triumph of quantity over quality." -- Peter H. Peel

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    8. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by eam · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Term limits would also get rid of the honest, competent politicians who serve their constituents with integrity.

      If we ever get anyone like that, it will be a shame to lose them because of term limits.

    9. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by jdgeorge · · Score: 5, Informative

      I mean, I thought it was the Republicans who were destroying America and the Democrats were going to save us? You mean to tell me that they are all beholden to business interests? Say it it isn't so!

      Ah, see? And yet again, because it's a Democrat party senator going against the ./ grain, the little (D) mark after the name is absent from the intro blurb. Curious how that always happens. Whenever it's a Republican senator or congressman in the hot seat, that little (R) is right there to make sure everyone knows it. I've pointed this out before, and here it is again. Coincidence? Oversight? Not this many times it ain't.

      Hmmm.... My gut thought this might be true, but my brain told me I should pay Myth Busters their due by actually taking a peek at a list of relevant stories posted in Slashdot.

      By browsing through the list of stories which mention a US Senator, there is no identifiable pattern of senators being identified by party. I see many instances of less-known senators of both parties being identified with their party affiliation, and many more instances of well-known senators of either party being mentioned without noting the party.

      It is conceivable that a thorough statistical analysis would show some bias, but it is not at all obvious at a quick glance. The AC's post is demonstrably false as written. the R is not always noted, and the D does show up in a negative context (such as here, or here).

      I consider this myth busted.

    10. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Abraham Lincoln when he acted like George Dubya - like a military dictator.

      Lincoln went a lot further than GWB ever dreamed. If GWB had the cojones of Lincoln he would installed puppet governments in the state capitols of the blue states that opposed his policies and ordered the army to arrest the entire editorial board (well, except Kristol) of the New York Times.

      People who blindly idolize Lincoln really need to open a history book and see what he was all about. I'm not convinced that forcing the South to remain a part of the Union at gunpoint was really worth it.

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    11. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by hansamurai · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It shouldn't matter what opinion you have on net neutrality, there is absolutely NO reason this should be in the stimulus bill.

      Support the One Subject at a Time Act:
      http://www.downsizedc.org/etp/campaigns/83

    12. Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican.... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then why do these idiots keep re-electing people like Feinstein? She's done nothing but raise taxes, vote away our rights, and spend money.

      Because her opponent in every election would do nothing but raise taxes, vote away a different group of your rights, and spend money.

  2. How ridiculous. by andytrevino · · Score: 5, Informative

    Democrats NEVER hide unnecessary spending or unrelated projects in omnibus spending bills. They're for responsible government, remember?

    Change! Transparency!

    1. Re:How ridiculous. by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The hypocrisy of the democrats who ripped on republicans and Bush and now ignore it when they do the EXACT same type of stuff just kills me.

      My favorite was all the whining I heard from the far-left when Bush was selling the TARP plan by telling us how society was going to collapse if we didn't pass it. "Bush is just trying to scare us so he can raid the treasury!" they all said. I'm glad that Obama is above such fear-mongering to pass his agenda. He would never use loaded words like "catastrophe", would he?

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      We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
    2. Re:How ridiculous. by ForrestFire439 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Unlike the republicans, the democratic party has a lot of people with their own views.

      Right... Because Republicans are just mindless automatons while the Democrats are the epitome of critical thought and non-partisanship. EastCoastSurfer's got it right. They're all crooks. You might want to do some reading into the history of the Democratic party.

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    3. Re:How ridiculous. by andytrevino · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Way to make it personal, asshole. I'm a college student so I can get away with charging 20 bucks an hour undercutting everyone else (high gas prices and an outdated website, you see; the website does no selling for me) and it's still a reasonable amount of money considering my expenses -- and I'm really good at what I do, if my continued referrals mean anything.

      Discarding the politics of personal destruction and returning to the issues, it's silly of you to assert that only Democrats have dissonance within their ranks. There are many varied viewpoints in the Republican party, from the wacky (and IMO quite stupid) Creationists to the pro-abortion, pro-gay-marriage Giuliani conservatives to the corrupt idiots like Ted Stevens who I'm happy to see go. People like me consider the Ted Stevenses and the Arlen Specters and the Olympia Snowes (the latter two of which supported this pork-laden stimulus package in the Senate) to be, as you say, wolves in sheeps' clothing.

      And unfortunately, Barack was pitched to us as a messenger from fairy land sent to save us all, that he would magically make everything better. He can't even instill his own purported values of transparency, freedom of information and clean government in his own party members despite his sweeping election. There is no hope for them; indeed, I think they've started to rub off on him -- there are no pork or earmarks in the stimulus bill, but there are special spending projects and shovel-ready construction projects and countless other Democrat special projects that just can't wait to garner Democrat votes with government dollars.

    4. Re:How ridiculous. by jandrese · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be fair, Bush's TARP plan was basically "put a giant pile of money on the table, turn your back, and whatever the banks want they can take". The Obama plan is far more directed and includes oversight as well as earmarks to reduce the chance that the money just goes directly into someone's pocket, never to be seen again.

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  3. Ummm... by internerdj · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one welcomed our new Democratic overlords, but now I'm not so sure...

    1. Re:Ummm... by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Both parties are bought and paid for.

      That anyone ever thinks differently must lack critical thinking. The people in power are corrupt, and the weaker party, which happened to be in power last time, is going to swoop in and fix everything.

      Fuck, half the problem is that this country wasn't set up as a democracy, but a republic. But then it started with electing the president directly instead of state legislatures deciding themselves, sending electors that were little more rubberstamps, and then an amendment where the senators get voted in by the people, instead, again, of the electors deciding. The republic originally envisioned would have had several layers, with people voting the bottom local layer, and then those layer of people voting up another level, etc.

      The net effect is that, I as a lone and insignificant voter, instead of just voting for a few people that I know better on a local people - get swamped with choices on every level - local, state, federal. Who has the time for it? You know how people complain about choice and linux distros? This is 100x worse. The end effect is that people start voting down the line for parties. National Parties evolved.

      Such a system also gives the mainstream media undue power, puppet strings whereby to agitate voters into their agendas who in turn wail to their politicians, all the way up to Senators and Presidents, about the latest insignificant thing. It's not a good way to keep government limited if people always demand things from the government. If senators, as originally, were appointed by state legislators or governors - there would be focused on more than winning the next election.

    2. Re:Ummm... by jackspenn · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeh, I have a lot of friends who believed by "change" Obama intended to:

      su - President
      del /SpecialInterests
      cd /newUS
      ./configure
      make
      make install


      Unfortunately for them, by "change" he meant:

      su - President
      mv /SpecialInterests /opt/agenda2009

      and they never expected to see

      cp lobbyists /home/whitehouse/cabinet/

      or

      cp taxcheats /home/whitehouse/cabinet/

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    3. Re:Ummm... by ekimminau · · Score: 5, Funny

      But what they REALLY didn't understand was going to happen was: cd /oldUS
      rm -rf Democracy
      cd /newUS
      ./configure --opt ++Socialism ++cronyism ++ChicagoPolitics ++PorkSpending
      make
      make install

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  4. War profiteering scum by Whammy666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She needs to be investigated for her conflict of interest between her position as chair on the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee and her husband's firms receiving billions of dollars of defense construction contracts. Oops. She's the chair of the Senate Rules Committee. I guess there won't be any investigations.

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  5. More and more evidence by slashdotlurker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Democrats have always been in the pocket of RIAA/MPAA/Hollywood types. Look up Hillary Rosen if you have any doubts. Republicans have scr*w*d up the country but on this issue, they have always been a better alternative. Not because they are more moral or anything, but because they are not as beholden to the Hollywood set.

  6. not surprising by Michael+Restivo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when you look at the long-term contribution trends http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=B02

    Cheers, Mike

  7. Single Purpose Bills by Duradin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This, amongst the other chicanery of congress, is yet another example of why we need to impose single purpose limitations on the bills congress tries to pass.

    They can take their riders and try to get them passed as stand alone bills.

  8. Re:Why not? by Americano · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your sources are diverse and correct! Everyone knows Open standards for medical documents is a one way road to Socialism. Just ask anyone on slashdot what open standards does to a buisiness! It's evil, don't touch it! You don't have to read deep into Torvaldis' Das Penguinal to see that communism follows.

    Sarcasm isn't really a rebuttal. But then you knew that, right?

    You could try reading Betsy McCaughey's op-ed about the piece, or better yet, go read the actual bill in question yourself. And note that that web site is GPO (Government Printing Office), not GOP - I'm sure some dyslexic will misread it and accuse me of being a shill for the Republicans.

    Point of fact: nowhere in the bill is an "open" standard for medical records referenced or called for.

    Point of fact: In this bill, the government is appointing itself as the entity to ensure that everybody (yes, everybody - there don't appear to be any provisions for people who wish to opt out) has electronic medical records by 2014. The government has also tasked this bureaucracy with developing infrastructure to facilitate the exchange of those medical records.

    When any agency (government or private) nominates itself as the caretaker of extensive private information about you, it's wise to have privacy concerns. I don't mean tin-foil hat conspiracy theories, I mean, there should be full & accurate disclosure as to what privacy controls are in place, so that the public can understand & offer feedback on the proposal.

    The GP's last 2 sentences are actually spot-on. An economic stimulus bill is NOT the place for a tacked-on afterthought which creates a sweeping change to the country's medical landscape. There are legitimate privacy questions & concerns in the creation of electronic medical records, and to just stuff them into this bill stifles open & constructive debate on exactly what safeguards should be put in place.

    Slashdot readers fumed over the PATRIOT act's potential for violating their privacy; this provision could have equally far-reaching impact on your private, personal medical records. So bottom line, I'm asking you to answer this one question:

    WHY is the fact that the government wants to take full or partial control of your medical records NOT a cause for concern for you?

    Please answer in a complete sentence that doesn't begin with either of these two phrases:
    1) "Because President Obama says..."
    2) "Well it's not like it's President Bush..."

  9. Your Reality Check Bounced (A little history). by weston · · Score: 5, Informative

    Republicans always get blaimed for everything bad that happens in this country. The sad thing is most Americans don't even know which party is in control in Washington. While the Republican hating masses were giving Congress a single digit approval rating, most of them didn't even realize it was the Democrats who were in charge of Congress

    Republicans: in charge of the House from 1994-2006, in charge of the Whitehouse from 2001 until three weeks ago, majority of the Senate from 1995-2006 except for a brief period in 2002 when Jeffords' defection gave the Democrats a 1 member lead (and I guess three weeks when Al Gore was still VP and it was briefly split). Supreme Court essentially narrowly split, although you can credibly argue that the Roberts appointment made the court on balance Republican to some approximation. This is essentially Republican control from 2001 until early 2007.

    Democrats: majority in the house from 2006, essentially split Senate from 2006, bare majority for Democrats given Sanders and Lieberman's caucus choice. But given the narrow split, the veto stick held by a Republican presidency, and the composition of the Democratic majority (esp. blue dogs in conservative districts), "control" is a pretty tenuous term for even the two houses of congress. Meanwhile, Republicans still hold the presidency and with Alito's appointment the court becomes arguably more Republican.

    Who doesn't understand which party has been in control in Washington?

    In 2-4 years, the Democrats won't have that excuse anymore, and accountability is important. I have no problem with people calling them out on specific policy positions and voting them out next election if that's what it takes.

    But it's ludicrous to assert that Democrats are primarily responsible for the current state of things. And it's a little extra stupid to accuse others who apparently have a better grasp of recent history than you do of not understanding what's going on. U.S. policy for the last decade has been dominated by the Republicans, there's no other reasonable conclusion. Whether the Democrats can do any better is an open question, but it's really only been askable for about three weeks.