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Post-Beta Windows 7 Build Leaked With New IE8
CWmike writes "A post-beta version of Windows 7, Build 7022, leaked to Internet file-sharing sites also includes an updated version of IE8, according to searches at several BitTorrent trackers. With Microsoft halting new Windows 7 beta downloads on Tuesday, and blocking all downloads as of noon (EST) today, users are again turning to illegal sources to get the new operating system."
Post-beta is really relative. I consider all windows OSes beta until 2 years after the initial release.
Who's leaking the builds?
Either way, Microsoft are getting a lot of good free press from them so far, I don't think they'll really have to worry about piracy cutting into their profits too much.
Probably the same reason it was done with Chicago/Windows 95, Windows 98, Whistler/Windows XP, Cairo/Windows NT 4 (the name spawned through like nearly a decade lol), and other operating systems. Simply to seee how they operate and know what the next incarnation of software is heading into.
Be it good or bad.
I was wondering the same thing, but if you're willing to go to that extent just to get around the ridiculous limitations, you honestly might as well just pirate the damn thing.
I don't get this - If you haven't used a windows OS since 2000, how can you say it a "job poorly done".
For my 2c, XP is a very well rounded operating system - part of the reason MS is finding it so hard to move people from it.
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Lunix just isn't ready for the desktop yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Lunix which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere. The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.
Ironically, this post is almost on-topic for once, given the fact that the article is about the upcoming Windows release. Too bad it's posted in most of the commentaries where it IS off-topic.
By the way, I've never heard of Lunix. Would you care to explain what it is?
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But the thing is, it is completely hard-coded in. For example, I won't complain if the largest file I can have on my hard drive is 300 GB because that is the limitations on the filesystem, however, if I could only have a 2 GB file unless I paid $50 for the "improved edition" I would complain loudly.
Secondly, this is a major lock in for MS. If by using Firefox, VLC, and a third-party game you can exceede your app limit, but if you use IE, Windows Media Player and some built-in Windows game, you don't. This is especially worrying in the developing countries where this will be sold.
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Get a fscking clue here people, This "leak" is a marketing project from the word go.
Step 1: Build a virtually-nonfunctional but highly stable show-off OS with all of the important (and wildly unstable) compatibility turned off.
Step 2: Leak said software as your next great release and bemoan the loss of your great surprise unveiling.
Step 3: Pay lots of reviewers to fill comment sites about how terrific the fantastic OS is before most have ever seen it.
Step 4: Enjoy a *positive* rollout on the heals of your abomination of a release called 'Vista' and that horseshit "not vista" campaign that followed.
Step 5: Profit
I still cannot fathom why people scramble to get the latest copy of a Windows OS way before it's really even declared "ready."
Mostly because it's going to be the dominant OS for the next 5+ years and maybe, just maybe, they want to get familiar with it as soon as possible.
Windows still has about 88% of the market. That means, on average, out of 100 people, 1 uses linux, 9 use MacOS, 2 use another OS and 88 use Windows.
Think about that for a moment, 88% vs 1%. The question should be, why do we care about the latest build of anything else?
Gentoo is actually a distro I recommend sometimes to people who are interested in installing Linux on their computer for the first time, and it's not because I'm some MS shrill who is trying to scare people away from Linux. ;-)
But if you have someone who has used Linux on someone else's computer or a school computer or something so that they are not scared of the command line and are have become pretty sure this is something that they'll actually be using rather than just installing because they want to try it and think they might like it, and they are willing to put in a little bit of effort, Gentoo is a really good choice. (That's a lot of 'if's, but Gentoo isn't exactly your typical newbie distro.)
I'm a big Gentoo fan (well, to the extent I'm a fan of any OS, which is not very much), because I think it is a solid distribution, but the main selling point for someone who can and is willing to deal with it is that in my experience, the documentation has just been outstanding. It's been a bit since I have really done any adminning of my own Linux box so this may be out of date, but I would do searches for Linux problems without specifying I was running Gentoo, and it seemed that half the time I would hit something on the Gentoo site anyway.
Like being an all around prick to complete strangers on Slashdot?
Sigh....I am probably going to get flamed for this, but what the hey, my karma is great and I hate half truths. There is NO Linux OS that you don't have to learn CLI. NONE AT ALL. Folks like to say that there is, but there really isn't.
If you want proof, here it is. Pretend to be an Ubuntu user. Ubuntu is a friendly Linux distro that doesn't need CLI, right? Install it to a PC. Now let us say that something doesn't work. You are completely free to pick the something: Network/Audio/Video/multi card reader, whatever. Now go to the forums like a good Windows user would do and ask for help. Your answer will ALWAYS start with "Bring up Bash and....."
And it is at THAT moment you have lost. You have failed, the game is over, the fat lady has sung, please hit the lights on your way out. You will NEVER get your average Windows user to use CLI. Hell even the power users usually avoid it like an STD. Believe me, of this I know. As a Windows repairman with over 15 years in the biz I have tried teaching a little CLI to users. It is not going to happen cap'n. They don't WANT to learn the CLI, they HATE the CLI, and frankly the vast majority doesn't even know that Windows HAS a CLI, because in Windows you can always do what you need to by GUI. But it just ain't so in Linux.
The day that you can have a problem in a Linux distro and go to the forums and NOT get "bring up bash and..." as the standard answer then it might be ready for Windows users. Oh, and make those damned Lexmark printers work, but that is another story. But until Linux reaches the point that you can fix problems without ever needing to know the CLI exists it just won't be ready for most Windows users. Honestly I don't think it ever will be, simply because Linux under the hood is really built for servers and servers are CLI based. Nothing wrong with that, servers are a big market. But those shelling out the big bucks to write all the nitty gritty down and dirty internals that all the distros have in common are doing it for servers. And an emphasis on removing CLI dependence simply isn't something they are the least bit interested in. But the second you tell the vast majority of Windows users to "bring up bash and..." they will be bringing the PC to me to have it wiped and Windows installed. Sorry.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
The number of times I've had to use a CLI to fix something in Linux is about the same as the number of times I've had to use the Registry Editor to fix something in Windows.
So I suppose I can switch your argument around a bit: The day that you can have a problem in Windows and can go to a forum and not get "Start > Run... > regedit" as the standard answer is that day that it might be ready for users.
No existe.
It also makes no sense to deny inexperienced users to become experienced. The way I learned was by doing things wrong over and over again. That is how people learn.
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Nope, so sorry charlie. MSFT in their infinite stupidity is going to push Win7 starter for the netbook market. That's right! Imagine getting your new netbook home, install AV/Firewall/antispyware and find out "no soup for you!" when it comes to actually running YOUR stuff as opposed to what you need to keep Windows from getting borked. Do you think those folks are going to go "Oh well" and shell out the bucks for the Home Premium? Nope, TPB FTW baby! The version you are thinking of for the third world is now the Basic edition. Yes, for no damned reason they switched them around. Fun huh?
Seriously WTF is MSFT thinking? Are they TRYING to commit suicide? Do they honestly think a 3 app limit is going to fly? I have said it before and I'll say it again: Fire that damned retarded monkey Ballmer who wants to be Apple so fucking bad it hurts and bring back Allchin. Because Ballmer and his marketing drones are going to kill the company. Mark my words, Win7 is going to bomb hard. It is going down like Slim Pickens riding the bomb in DR Stranglove. It is just too bad that it isn't Ballmer riding the thing. But having 6 versions of Vista was confusing enough for the consumer, and now adding a 3 app limit to bitchslap them if they guess wrong is just insanity. Ever since the damned monkey took over they have bounced from one idea to another like the company has ADHD while the core market, the business and enterprise markets that pay them the big money, has been given the finger. Mark my words, that is going to come back to bite them in the ass BIG time.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
No, you are incorrect. Questioning the reason behind and logic of downloading a pirated operating system is entirely on-topic in a thread regarding the downloading of pirated operating systems. Piss-poor moderators and microsoft cheerleaders modding that question down is rather inexcusable. But then, since the practice of pirating that particular software is indefensible, they have no recourse but to try and bury the question.
This post, of course, is off topic and should be modded down. While someone with mod points today takes care of that for me, I'm going to go meta-moderate. I haven't been doing enough of that lately.
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