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Canon Tries To Shut Down "Fake" Canon Blog

Thomas Hawk writes "An interesting twist over at the Fake Chuck Westfall Blog. Fake Chuck (like Fake Steve before him) has a blog out parodying Canon's real Technical Information Advisor Chuck Westfall. It seems that Canon and their lawyers over at Loeb & Loeb are none too fond of all the fun that Fake Chuck and DSLR geeks everywhere have been having at their expense and have sent Fake Chuck's blog hosting company, WordPress, a notice to take the blog down. Canon's lawyers cite that Fake Chuck's blog is 'calculated to mislead recipients,' even though the blog has 'fake' in the title, 'fake' in the URL and 'fake' just about everywhere else in the blog. What in the heck is wrong with Canon? Do they really think that trying to shut down a parody blog is going to make their new 5D Mark II ship any faster?" After Fake Chuck removed the Canon logo from his site, WordPress is standing behind him and has rebuffed Canon's demand.

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  1. Fake First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This post has fake all over it, so you can't mod it down.

    1. Re:Fake First Post by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Funny

      I only have fake mod points today, so I fake modded you down.

  2. MS fakery by Goffee71 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is there no fake Microsoft blog? If so, I'm guessing no one believes what they write anyway.

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    1. Re:MS fakery by Cally · · Score: 4, Interesting
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  3. Guess business is kinda slow by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More free press for Canon. The real intention all along. Good job.

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    1. Re:Guess business is kinda slow by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With the lack of interest I would have for starting a blog centered around a key individual of Canon as opposed to Nikon/Motorola/etc., I wouldn't doubt it if the whole thing was staged just for publicity like this, after somebody at Canon saw the "fake steve jobs" fiasco. It probably isn't likely, but hey you never know these days.

    2. Re:Guess business is kinda slow by suricatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      REad the blog, it's actually quite critical. Get a few posts in and it's enough to put you off Canon cameras entirely.

  4. You'd think by now... by DeadPixels · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Companies would realize that not liking someone's views doesn't give them the right to censor the person.

    1. Re:You'd think by now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      In this case, though, the views expressed are decidedly noncanonical.

    2. Re:You'd think by now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...that the above poster would have noticed the 'fake' in the author's pseudonym.

    3. Re:You'd think by now... by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 4, Informative

      He's not pretending to be a real person other than himself, he's pretending to be a fake person other than himself

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    4. Re:You'd think by now... by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but there's no prohibition against making lots of noise and getting on the front page when you have a product you need to push.

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    5. Re:You'd think by now... by colourmyeyes · · Score: 2

      Agreed, which is why I tried to mod you up, but accidentally modded down, so now I'm undoing that moderation.

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    6. Re:You'd think by now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Absolutely! Canon are hurting as they've had nothing but immense quality problems with almost every major model released in the last 2 years. Canon just cannot stand being called out as making 'fake' cameras and watch their user base walk over to real Nikon.
      FACT: On a Luminous Landscapes trip to Antarctica, ZERO Nikon D700 failures, 6(six) Canon 5Dii failures of which 3 recovered and 3 were bricked.
      Can you smell the PANIC back at Canon HQ?

    7. Re:You'd think by now... by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Risking being off-topic, but seeing these all the time since the new "Web 2.0" upgrades to the slashcode has now drawn out the 'troll'.

      Please! Put the 'moderate' *button* back. Simply putting taking action on an index change on the drop down list makes it so that people can accidentally mod the wrong way. It's only by good fortune that there are some people who decided to post something in response to remove the moderation. By putting the button back to confirm the selection, you avoid the mess of people posting to remove moderation and posts like these to beg for that simple piece of functionality be put back.

      The Karma Whores will love you for it.

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    8. Re:You'd think by now... by roguetrick · · Score: 5, Funny

      I tried to mod you offtopic but I ended up modding you insightful.

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    9. Re:You'd think by now... by neumayr · · Score: 2, Informative
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    10. Re:You'd think by now... by corsec67 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, wrong.

      By definition, a company very much can censor.

      It is just legal if it is the context of forums under that companies control, or using copyright/trademark laws.

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    11. Re:You'd think by now... by Miseph · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Also, but I'm not sure if it's because of my browser's ineptitude, posting something to undo moderation doesn't give you the modpoints back."

      That is intentional, check the moderation FAQ. The stated reason is that it allows an abusive mod to mod up/down a post in a new article, then post once it comes off the front page (making it a lot less important) and get the points back to use again.

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    12. Re:You'd think by now... by rufus+t+firefly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In contrast to that, I haven't had any problems with my 40D at all, and the 350D I had before that only occasionally had issues with dirty contacts on the lens throwing that nasty "error 99" every once in a while.

      I guess with DSLRs (or SLRs, really) you buy into whichever brand of dog food you are interested in, since lens cost will eventually eclipse camera body cost as you build a collection of lenses. We can bicker and argue about one brand being better than another, but as long as they take pretty faithful pictures, it doesn't really matter.

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    13. Re:You'd think by now... by penguinchris · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just want to add that with the same two cameras, the 350D and my current 40D, I also haven't had problems.

      I *have* had minor problems with lenses, especially third-party ones. That is where calibration/quality control is a major problem, even with Canon lenses (though I haven't had a problem with my Canon lenses, I know many others have.)

  5. Thanks to Canon and Slashdot by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Streisand effect has now hit the Fake Chuck blog. I wasn't aware of the blog but thanks to Canon's own doing more people will be aware of it.

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    1. Re:Thanks to Canon and Slashdot by RichardJenkins · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wha says that's not what they were going for? These are sneaky bastards these corporate types. It's difficult tfor us straight thinking peeps to get a handle on them.

  6. Re:5D Mk II by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's been available at Amazon for a while now, with several different retailers offering it and already over 50 customer reviews posted.

  7. Fake MWoody says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I'm a complete moron!

    --Fake MWoody

  8. Bad Summary by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The take down letter asked for 4 things:

    1. Stop using the Canon logo.
    2. Remove references to violence.
    3. Remove references to Chuck's family.
    4. Changes to the look and feel of the blog so it would not be
    confused with actual Canon corporate sites.

    It wasn't a totally unreasonable blanket take-down demand, and as such Fake Chuck will easily be able to comply and continue as a source of satire and humor.

    1. Re:Bad Summary by rcw-home · · Score: 4, Informative

      I looked at the PDF of the takedown. Yes, it mentioned those four things as "particularly egregious" but it was a blanket take-down demand. Let's examine the basis they list for their complaint and their demand:

      http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/ (the "Blog") - is using our client's trademark and Mr. Westfall's name and likeness without authorization

      Accordingly, we hereby demand that you immediately remove the above-mentioned objectionable and harmful content from your website, as well as terminate the Blog author's account.

      (emphasis mine)

      If Wordpress hadn't exhibited some common sense, Fake Chuck would have had to find a new home.

  9. Re:WTF by Teun · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because this is one of their flagship products and it has according to early reports performed a bit sub-par?
    Canon

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  10. Fwd: Thanks for the heads up about your blog! by samj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Sam Johnston <samj-at-".net>
    Date: Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 9:31 PM
    Subject: Thanks for the heads up about your blog!
    To: Chuck Westfall <cwestfall@cusa.canon.com>
    Cc: Toni Scheinder <toni@automattic.com>, "Douglas E. Mirell" <dmirell@loeb.com>

    G'day Chuck,

    It's not every day that something truly entertaining comes to my
    attention but thanks to my mates at Slashdot[1] and your mates at Loeb
    & Loeb with their (surely fake?) letter[2] I was drawn attention to
    your refreshingly entertaining fake blog[3]. Anyway I'm sure I'm one
    of many who have immediately added your blog to my reader - it's truly
    amazing what a bit of viral marketing can do for you!

    Kodos to the guys at Automattic too for identifying the letter for
    what it was so quickly and taking appropriate action - those guys
    rock!

    Eagerly awaiting your next post,

    Your [virtual] friend,

    Sam

    1. http://fakechuckwestfall.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/982873542.pdf
    2. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/15/1830217
    3. http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/

  11. Bad lawyers by Kupfernigk · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The take down letter made other, unreasonable demands. As I've posted before, it's often the case that from the plaintiff point of view, the weaker the case the stronger the language, and contrariwise for the defendant. This was a weak case so L&L tried to boost it with strong language demanding that Wordpress cease to allow the fake CW to publish any blogs. Wordpress detected it was a weak case and offered the minimum actually needed to comply. And now, people who had no idea that some people think Canon DSLRs are not very good, and have inadequate QA, are suddenly informed on the subject.

    I had to issue a takedown notice last year when I discovered that a fake business had stolen the identity of our legitimate business. As a result, we could have been raided by the police and had our equipment taken by them, which could have driven us out of business. The initial response of the website host was to go away. Before I could respond to this, which would have involved a High Court injunction, they obviously took legal advice and I suddenly got a grovel. So I am sympathetic to legitimate takedowns. As you say, part of this one was legitimate. But L&L should have done better than have it drafted by a paralegal, and simply insisted that the genuinely infringing material be removed or fixed, and requested as a matter of courtesy that the blog confine itself to technical matters. Despite their claims to the contrary, lawyers are frequently not the shiniest apples in the barrel.

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  12. I would not even have removed the logo by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Informative

    since using it in obvious parody is protected fair use.

  13. Re:5D Mk II by WillKemp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    [......] already over 50 customer reviews posted.

    Looks like Canon's marketing dept have been busy then!

  14. Re:What? by hyades1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The story's not about photography. It's about a major multinational corporation using its lawyers and money to bully into silence bloggers who point out its failures.

    You didn't get that?

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  15. the biggest threat to Canon profits by alizard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is probably Canon corporate policy, not a fake blog.

    My experience with Canon printers has been good. They are very well constructed, using actual metal parts where it makes sense, they aren't the typical plastic shells surrounding mostly air one sees in the great majority of consumer printers.

    I will not buy a new Canon printer.

    Canon's PIXMA IP3000/4000/5000/6000 printers had the easiest to refill cartridges around. I've got an IP3000, which I bought for $60 with a $20 rebate when new. (and yes, Canon did actually send me the rebate money) Well, it's aging and developing enough signs of wear that I'm thinking of replacing it.

    There are a few IP3000s left that were never sold in sealed retail boxes. The price at Amazon starts at $209. The cheapest used IP3000 available at Amazon starts at $110. People in the know would rather chance a used printer than buy a new Canon printer.

    How often do you see computer peripherals go up in price years after they are manufactured to the point where they are far more expensive than comparable new ones? The demand for the old ones comes down to drastically reduced cost of ownership. I've been printing for the last year on $30 worth of high-quality fourmilabs bulk ink, and my printed photos have never looked better.

    If Canon were to make a new line of printers with chipless cartridges, I'd be happy to pay $100+ for one. If they made one that could be used directly with bulk ink, I'd be delighted to pay $150.

    1. Re:the biggest threat to Canon profits by kimvette · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When Canon started chipping their cartridges I finally took the plunge and bought a Xerox color laser printer. I haven't looked back since.

      FUCK the whole cheap printer/expensive ink business model.

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  16. 3 words... by pig-power · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thank You Wordpress

  17. Re:WTF by penguinchris · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree that it has been performing sub-par for many people, but I don't think the failure rate on that Antarctica trip is the right thing to point to. See my earlier comment at http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1128757&cid=26869539 for my analysis.

    There are reports of earlier Antarctica trips on that site from previous years, with similar tallies of failed cameras. It doesn't tell you a whole lot other than that if you use your camera in extreme conditions it wasn't necessarily designed for, you have to expect that it may have problems.

    The bigger issues (that haven't supposedly been fixed by firmware) - as discussed on the fake blog - are noise even at low ISOs and auto-focus performance. These are disappointing problems for this camera, especially the noise. This is marketed as a low-noise camera, even at high ISOs, yet many are saying the original 5D is better in that regard (I haven't looked into it too much myself, I can't afford an upgrade from my 40D anytime soon anyway.)

  18. The problem-- like soylent green --is people. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People think stupid stuff. All it takes is that x% of people too stupid to grasp the concept, to then pass the 'information' on to their friends. Give it another iteration or two, and it starts to become a problem. Human beings readily accept the easiest to digest and most palatable information available to them. Canon is just trying to head that shit off.

    Think about it this way; you have someone like Jack Thompson, devoting his every waking hour to convincing people that videogames are solely responsible for the breakdown of society. Bullshit, of course. But a percentage of people take it seriously enough to tell someone else, whether or not these people have any idea what in the hell they're talking about is irrelevant, with only a little help, such ideas can silently seep into common knowledge until a majority of people believe-- or at the very least, take seriously --such things.

    To put it another way, if you're subjected to someone yelling about something loud enough, long enough, sooner or later it's going to have an effect.

    I'm not saying Canon took the right tact, I mean the blog looks fairly harmless, I'm just saying I can think of a few reasons they'd want to do something about someone taking pokes at them in such a way.

    For the record, I'm fairly brand-agnostic. Though I haven't used a Nikon SLR since the days of film.

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