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Casinos Warn iPhone Card-Counting App is Illegal

An anonymous reader writes "Gaming commissions in Nevada are informing casinos that a new card counting program has made its way to the Apple iPhone, called Hi Lo. This program can be used in the Stealth Mode. When the program is used in the Stealth Mode the screen of the phone will remain shut off, and as long as the user knows where the keys are located the program can be run effortlessly without detection. Randall Sayre, of the Nevada Gaming Commission says 'Use of this type of program or possession of a device with this type of program on it (with the intent to use it), in a licensed gaming establishment, is a violation of NRS 465.075.'"

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  1. Re:awww poor casinos by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why use the iPhone....?

    Card counting on your own, isn't that hard. Sure, it takes a bit of practice, but, it isn't rocket science.

    I played with it awhile...I just made sure I first memorized basic strategy....the set play for everything based on your cards vs the dealer.

    Once you get that down like 2nd nature...you start going with the +1 -1 for the low and high cards showing up on the table...divide the count by number of decks used to that point..etc.

    Not rocket science, but, it does take some practice.

    Even if you were using this iPhone app...you'd still have to have basic strategy memorized.

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  2. Re:slashdot sensationalism by Oidhche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You mean it's unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to use, a brain?

    Ah, well, no surprise there.

  3. Re:awww poor casinos by LandDolphin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like you missed out and some of the fun... Pole Dancers and 'free' drinks sound liek a nice way to spend an evening...

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  4. Re:awww poor casinos by cortesoft · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Umm I am not sure you understand how Blackjack works -- the dealer can't 'counter' basic strategy, since they do not have a choice about which action to take, and you are only playing against the dealer -- the way the other players play has no effect on your odds of winning. The reason casinos don't mind if you use basic strategy is that even using basic strategy, a player will still win less than 50 percent of the time. Basic strategy is something that should ALWAYS be used, and cannot be countered.. you will just still lose money (although not quite as fast) as you would otherwise (unless you count cards as well).

  5. Re:awww poor casinos by johnsonav · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You mean cheat.

    No, cheating conducted by the house, not an individual employee cheating to enrich himself, but actual cheating by the casino at a card game is very rare. I've worked in a casino (riverboat in Iowa) and gambled at almost every casino in the Midwest, and have only seen or heard of real casino cheating once. That was at a tribal casino in South Dakota. They were caught removing cards from a blackjack deck.

    To prevent this, and assure the gamblers that the cards are all there, most casinos have implemented a strict procedure for introducing new cards in play. First, the factory sealed decks are brought to the table by pit personnel. They are opened by the pit, but the cards are removed from the box by the dealer. The cards are then spread out on the table, face down, to check for imperfections on the backs. Then they are flipped face up and counted. All cards must be accounted for before the deck is put into play. The same process is repeated for all decks coming into play. When it is time to change those cards for a new deck, the same procedure is followed in reverse. The cards are inspected to assure they are all still present, re-boxed, and set aside for possible further inspection. This is all done in front of the gamblers, who could easily spot missing or duplicate cards. They take this very seriously.

    It's rare because they already have a statistical edge against the player; they don't need to cheat. They also need to make sure that the gambling public doesn't associate their establishment with cheating, and stop patronizing them. Then they wouldn't make any money. A casino jealously guards its reputation.

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  6. Yeah, but you lose money at Disney. by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's the thing. If you are going to a casino to get money, you are kinda missing the point. The whole essence of the casino is sin, getting the drinks and the hookers and the whole nine yards of decadence and then a good steak, cigar, and a game of cards. That's a man's way to do things.

    I mean, you could go to Disney and blow a few hundred bucks on Dumbo balloons... or you could go to Vegas, and gamble, get hammered and get laid. Hmmm, if you are going to blow money, why not blow it something cool. Believe me, once you get married, the gambling, cards, drinking are all going to go away.

    The only thing that sucks about so many casinos and bars is that you can't smoke at them. What a stupid thing. A bunch of people whining about second hand smoke and then they all drive home drunk. It's just stupid. Quit being such a pussy about cancer, and smoke up.

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