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Casinos Warn iPhone Card-Counting App is Illegal

An anonymous reader writes "Gaming commissions in Nevada are informing casinos that a new card counting program has made its way to the Apple iPhone, called Hi Lo. This program can be used in the Stealth Mode. When the program is used in the Stealth Mode the screen of the phone will remain shut off, and as long as the user knows where the keys are located the program can be run effortlessly without detection. Randall Sayre, of the Nevada Gaming Commission says 'Use of this type of program or possession of a device with this type of program on it (with the intent to use it), in a licensed gaming establishment, is a violation of NRS 465.075.'"

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  1. If I had mod points I'd mod this up by M1rth · · Score: 0, Troll

    Really, wow - Casinos do cheat. The info on what they do (like stacking 10 decks to the 'shoe', rigging up the odds on the slot machines and dice games, etc) is available all over the net.

    Gotta wonder, how many casino employees did it take logging in to find the mod points to call an honest and insightful post "flamebait"?

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  2. Re:awww poor casinos by M1rth · · Score: 0, Troll

    Have seen it happen, actually - we were on a vacation in Vegas and a friend of mine won 10 straight hands in a row at blackjack. He wasn't "card counting", he's not that smart - he was just lucky enough to be dealt 19+ every hand (he got three facecard+ace combos, the "upside" of the multi-deck shoe), and the dealer was getting to 17 and staying.

    The pit bosses came down to the table with two bouncers, took his chips, dragged him to the office, "asked him questions" for an hour while the rest of us were wondering what to do and if we should call the cops. Then they pushed him out, marched him over, made him cash out his chips, and forced him to accept a "banned from blackjack" stamp on his hand before they'd let him go back to his room. Took a whole week and five good scrubbings with shop soap (the orange pumice stuff) for that mark to go away, his boss looked at him REALLY funny the first day back after vacation before hearing the story.

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  3. Re:awww poor casinos by commodore64_love · · Score: 0, Troll

    You mean the casinos you visited were only CAUGHT cheating one time. The other 100,000+ times they were cheating, but not caught I don't believe for a second those machines and wheels are not wired for independent control.

    And of course if you do start winning, then they immediately assume you are a cheat and kick you out. Even if you were doing nothing wrong.

    It's all a setup to extract dollars from wallets.

    It's no better than legalized theft.

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  4. $200? by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Troll

    you probably exerted more effort and time than a shift at a fast food restaurant, and wound up with less money, and didn't have mob run casinos red flagging you every time you go in a door. that's WHY you didn't have a visit to a room with no cameras with some intimidating fellas: its just $200

    now if you were making $2,000 ok, its worth your effort. $20,000 even better. but then the casinos wouldn't just ask you to leave

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