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UK Gov. Wants IWF List To Cover 100% of UK Broadband

wild_quinine writes "The UK government stated in 2006 that they wished to see 100% of UK consumer broadband ISPs' connections covered by blocking, which includes images of child abuse. 95% of ISPs have complied, but children's charities are calling for firmer action by the government as the last 5% cite costs and concerns over the effectiveness of the system. According to Home Office Minister Alan Campbell, 'The government is currently looking at ways to progress the final 5%.' With a lack of transparency in the IWF list, firm government involvement, and blocking that only 'includes' (but may not be limited to) images of child abuse, it looks like the writing is on the wall for unfiltered, uncensored Internet connections in the UK."

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  1. Absurd! by WiiVault · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am all for enforcement of laws, when they are reasonable. But things like this stink of nanny state. Child abuse is horrible, we can all agree, but pretending like it doesn't exist is sad, and ineffective.

    1. Re:Absurd! by DangerFace · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree wholeheartedly. I know a guy in Manchester who ran a website - just one of those collections of offensive jokes, pictures of mutilated corpses, all that crap. Needless to say, they didn't take it very seriously and neither did anyone else - I mean, these guys trolled on their own forum. Well, one day dawn broke to the sound of their door, which was also broken thanks to the police battering ram. No, they weren't hosting pictures of child abuse - they had some hentai on their site and had neglected to state clearly that the individuals portrayed as being chopped in half while being tentacle raped were 18. Eventually the case was dropped when the police realised they had no case, and to this day those guys use stolen police evidence bags as baggies for weed - possibly the most ironic thing I have ever encountered first hand. Last I heard it was a year after the police had dropped the case and they still didn't have the domain, or even their PCs, back.

    2. Re:Absurd! by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ahhhh, ye are too pessimistic. Everybody knows that when the government monitors all we do on the internet, things will become doubleplusgood to crimsestop those filled with badthought regarding the children. Once we eradicate the need, or even desire, porn will no longer be needed. We will have artsem do the job of creating our progeny.

      The next stop, beyond monitoring the internet, will be to install cameras so we can root out facecrime. We must not allow dangerous thoughts to continue. We can thank Eurosoc for their visionary proposal, and Eurojust for their vigorous enforcement against these sexcrime addicts. Praise the Europres, the Eurocommission, and the Europax.

      (shudder)

      Wow. What a scary message that was to write. Also a little sad.

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
  2. Is this how nations fall? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Child pornography? That's a shit reason censor.
    It also happens to be the one reason people aren't able to argue with.

    Where did all these child abusers come from?
    1. They were already there, the internet changed nothing.
    2. They were created by the internet. They spawned from caves just like a MMORPG.
    3. The internet magically turns people into child abusers just like that ActiveX control you didn't want.
    4. The whole thing was blown out of proportion by the media creating a moral panic.

    I've lived in several countries that have extensive censorship of all media, and that is the most scary thing on earth. It breeds a level of ignorance and double-think that just blows your mind. Censorship has the power to destroy your nation, however powerful it is today.

    Watch this space. As America and the UK among others become enemies of the internet, strangled by copyright laws run amok, and kids banned from playing with their chemistry sets, other countries will usurp us all.

  3. Re:The most widespread form of child abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    people need to raise HOLY HELL to stop this

    the STATE getting its claws onto censoring information and more importantly, *controlling information access* is a nightmare waiting to happen.

    first it is some bogus threat to the children, 5 years later, then it is to "stop the insurgents", then a few years later, it is to "quell dissent", and then to "keep the peace" and so on and so on

    slippery slope indeed

  4. Stop The Pandering by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Child abuse is horrible, we can all agree...

    Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop what you are doing. You and others.

    Every time you or anyone else adds pandering disclaimers like this you are undermining your own argument and are undeniably contributing to the problem of censorship in our society.

    Why do you think the "Think of the Children" brigade have gotten so far? How do you think that these people have been so successful at slowly introducing censorship to the Internet, and into society in general? It is because they rely on fear and intimidation to produce capitulations such as your disclaimer. Without fear, they are powerless in the face of common sense.

    No reasonable person need declare their revulsion. Yet everyone does so, because they are afraid of a pointing finger. Our society has been intimidated into censorship, and no one dares speak against it.

    Your statement even went so far as to seek greater consensus "we can all agree", adding to the cycle of intimidation and fear. This is where giving in has gotten us, and there is no end in sight to the injustices that will be heaped on us all "In The Name Of The Children". No end. These people will not stop, ever.

    Please do not capitulate in this way. There is no need to, despite how fearful you may be.

    --
    May the Maths Be with you!
  5. Re:Tackling the root causes by radio4fan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Next chance I get, I'm off.

    Shamefully reposted from the last time we had a story like this:

    --
    I left in 2007.

    There wasn't one single thing that made me go, but the accumulative weight of paranoia and illiberalism.

    Shamelessly ripped off from here:

            * The government can ban any groups it labels 'terrorist' (Terrorism Act 2000)
            * The government can monitor any and all private communication (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000)
            * Armed forces can be deployed on UK soil in peacetime (Civil Contingencies Act 2004)
            * Property and assets can be seized without warning or compensation (Civil Contingencies Act 2004)
            * Spontaneous protest is now illegal around Parliament (Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005)
            * Without trial, any British citizen can be tagged, put under house arrest and banned from using the telephone or internet (Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005)
            * Any citizen can be imprisoned without charge for 28 days (42 days has passed the house of commons) (Terrorism Act 2006)
            * The executive can change any current legislation without consulting Parliament, with very few exceptions (Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006)
            * Arbitrary punishments with no legal precedents can be issued with little legal recourse, based on hearsay evidence (Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003)
            * British citizens can be extradicted to the United States with no evidence presented (Extradition Act 2003)
            * Compulsory identification for all British citizens, with an unlimited amount of details stored in a central database, which the private sector will have access to (Identity Cards Act 2006)
            * Upon arrest the police have claim to your DNA, even if you are released without charge (Criminal Justice Act 2003)

    Note that some of this predates 9/11.

    The government is not-so-gradually putting in place all the mechanisms that a totalitarian police state needs.

    What's sickening is that this is largely supported by or ignored by the public.

    Every letter I wrote to my MP was replied to by a "we need it to keep people safe, and the public support this measure" fob-off.

    In theory I should stick around to try and change things, but it's like staying in a pool that other people are shitting in.
    --

    I first left for France, now I'm living in Spain. These countries are not Utopias, but they are a hell of a lot better than the UK. There are no moral panics about predatory paedophiles, and the 'content industries' are not so powerful. And it doesn't rain so much.