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Has Microsoft's Patent War Against Linux Begun?

Glyn Moody writes "Microsoft has filed a suit against TomTom, 'alleging that the in-car navigation company's devices violate eight of its patents — including three that relate to TomTom's implementation of the Linux kernel.' What's interesting is that the intellectual property lawyer behind the move, Horacio Gutierrez, has just been promoted to the rank of corporate vice president at Microsoft. Is this his way of announcing that he intends going on the attack against Linux?"

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  1. Patenting mistakes by alain94040 · · Score: 5, Informative

    3 patents relate to car navigation systems and I can't really tell who's right...

    But patent 5579517 is very simple for all to understand: it's the infamous way of Windows 95 to offer long file names (32 characters) over DOS, which only allowed 8-character names.

    So Microsoft patented the way to store a cross-reference between the nice, readable filename, and the ugly, DOS name.

    Does Linux do that? Sure, there might be a FAT driver somewhere... But I hope TomTom doesn't use FAT. If so, Microsoft is abusing the patent process.

    And am I the only one to see irony in the fact that Microsoft patented a software defect?

    1. Re:Patenting mistakes by Computershack · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tomtom does indeed use FAT on the memory cards the maps are stored on.

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    2. Re:Patenting mistakes by Directrix1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Doesn't this seem like anticompetitive behavior? I think we're needing a new lawsuit.

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    3. Re:Patenting mistakes by ximenes · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes, all patents expire. Because of the date on which this patent (#5579517) was filed, it will expire 17 years after the issue date (Nov 26, 1996). So approximately November 2013.

      However, it seems clear that Microsoft, as with most companies in this position, will continue to develop new derivative work that can be patented in turn. This will allow them to continue to constraint the filesystem under patent as it will be implemented in 2013, which may or may not matter depending on how the world works in the distant future.

    4. Re:Patenting mistakes by DittoBox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think what's really fucked up about this is that Microsoft is just now deciding to do something. FAT has existed for almost two decades, and the FS driver in Linux for quite some time as well. They waited for their FS to become a de facto standard so they could drop the hammer on people.

      If you own a trademark you have to actively defend it, lest it become a standard term for the product type. Shouldn't technology and patents be the same way? If you allow entire industries to adopt your patented method without defending it you should lose the patent. Coming in after the fact just so you can grab your competitors by the balls is just crooked.

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  2. The right answer to this by WindBourne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is to get companies to start using a different FS on memory cards. In particular, it might be useful to pick one of the OSS FS and see it dominate the industry. All it would take is several large companies to decide to change NOW, and the rest would follow.

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    1. Re:The right answer to this by dpilot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Look at it this way...

      Is your data SAFE in a Microsoft format?
      What other patents do they have that my not have been asserted in this case?
      Is your company future safe with anything other than pure, fully accepted and vetted open source I.P.?
      How about your documents, and your ability to manipulate them at will, without encumbrance or fees?

      Microsoft isn't the only company that can play the fear game.

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    2. Re:The right answer to this by Miamicanes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > is to get companies to start using a different FS on memory cards

      It's not going to happen, and here's why:

      * The royalties are capped. Beyond a certain point, it costs SanDisk, Minolta, and the others nothing in additional royalties for cards produced during a given year.

      * As a practical matter, Microsoft can only force you to pay royalties if you sell the card preformatted. Leave it up to the end user to format the drive himself, and Microsoft can't make you pay them a cent. Technically, the end user would be responsible for paying the royalties himself if he formats the card with FAT32, but as a practical matter Microsoft isn't going to come knocking on his door.

      Thus, it's self-limiting for large users, and there's a de-facto escape hatch for small users. The limit is high enough to make Microsoft lots of money, but low enough to not be worth the development and support costs of any alternate filesystem for the large users.

      In any case, I'll be shocked if Microsoft ever launches into an all-out assault on Linux. Frankly, Microsoft BENEFITS from having a small & noisy group of people loudly insisting there are alternatives to Windows. It lets them point and say, "See, we aren't REALLY a monopoly!

  3. Actual complaint: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Skip the ads and get the PDF of the complaint:

    http://media.techflash.com/documents/tomtomComplaint.pdf

    A quickie read of it still has me going "WTF!?" a lot. Seriously - they patented such things like:

    "Vehicle Computer System with Wireless Connectivity"

    "Portable Computing Device-Integrated Appliance"

    A quick look at the dates these things were granted, and most gadget geeks' memories should spark something: Most of this crap shouldn't have been patentable in the first place (wish they appended the patents to the complaint, though... it'd make things a lot easier to eyeball and evaluate in one spot).

    I'm guessing MSFT is just hoping to force a settlement, so that they can then use it as a cudgel... thing is, Microsoft is using a lot of OSS code nowadays too (IIRC in MSN/Live Messenger, Visual Studio 2008, and etc - linky here).

  4. Re:FAT32 patents by downix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And where are the lawsuits against Digital Cameras, USB Flash Drives, portable HDD's, the iPod....

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  5. TomTom not exactly a historically good actor... by morganew · · Score: 5, Informative

    TomTom were found to be a gpl violator in '04, sued Garmin in '07 and Toyota in '08 for infringing TomTom patents, and have a very restrictive EULA.

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  6. Re:FAT32 patents by Fastolfe · · Score: 5, Informative

    USB flash drives are normally implemented as a USB disk, not a FAT32 "device", so the FAT32 implementation (and patent concerns) are pushed off to the host that reads/writes to the disk. Digital cameras and iPods could be considered hosts in that sense, and they probably already have FAT32 licensed.

  7. Re:FAT32 patents by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > What makes you say that? The people who understand software and software patents well enough to understand what's going on already dislike Microsoft. Those who don't
    > aren't going to change their mind over this.

    Because people who aren't patent/tech nerds but who have tomtoms are going to hear about this and go `what the fuck?`...

  8. Re:This has been foreshadowed for years by jmorris42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    > Meaning, in no way will Microsoft ever be able to take on Linux directly....

    Which they have no intention of doing, for exactly the reasons you mention. They don't have to. IBM can do what it wants with Linux, safe in the knowledge they are one of the companies with a patent portfolio. Tom Tom on the other hand....

    Which is the message they want to send. Only players are allowed to play in the big leagues. If Tom Tom wants to enter the game they must license their IP from someone with a patent portfolio. Somebody like Novell or even IBM. But thinking one can just download Linux and enter the arena without a major defender is going to be shown as too dangerous for VC money, large instituitions, etc. At which point the major potential for market disruption implied by Linux, Open Source, Free Software, etc. is gone. This is just the warning shot. If companies like ASUS and Acer don't get the message expect an example to be made of one of the netbook makers soon.

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  9. Those patent numbers by gringer · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the shorter PDF:
    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6175789.html — Vehicle computer system with open platform architecture

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7054745.html — Method and system for generating driving directions

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6704032.html — Methods and arrangements for interacting with controllable objects within a graphical user interface environment using various input mechanisms

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7117286.html — Portable computing device-integrated appliance

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6202008.html — Vehicle computer system with wireless internet connectivity

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5579517.html — Common name space for long and short filenames

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5758352.html — Common name space for long and short filenames

    http://www.google.com/patents?id=02YIAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,256,642 — Method and system for file system management using a flash-erasable, programmable, read-only memory.

    Some other text seems necessary in order to type stuff and get links in.

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  10. Re:FAT32 patents by lorenlal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This sort of thing boggles my mind. You, as a company, make a lot of lovely commercials talking about how easy your OS is to copy pictures, and do all sorts of cool things. You employ a kid to pimp your OS. Everything is clouds and rainbows.

    In the past, you made it so your OS *only* supports file systems that you hold patents for. It's sketchy, but that's what you did. It even seems convenient to the end user cause they don't need to decide what format to do. Camera and device makers are faced with a choice to either:
    A) Use your file system in the storage to make it easy to copy (like in the commercials you make later).
    B) Force the makers to create an interface and make the copy process a pain for the end user.

    So, most makers choose A since the standard's been published and things seem pretty calm and clear. Happiness abounds, and since the standard is readily available almost everyone else has employed usage of said OS. It's lightweight, does a simple job quite well. Device makers make plenty of products that directly support and utilize your FS and it seems to add value to your OS.

    Then, you decide it's time to enforce the patent. Against certain competitors, or you start charging licensing fees. Device makers and the competition has to suffer since your OS dominates the market and there's no way to go back and stop using the FS since that requires recalling your entire product portfolio.

    I guess the point I'm trying to make is: WHY DO THIS? Greed.. At least that's a simple answer.

    More importantly though, does this qualify as either abusive or anti-competitive? I certainly think so. IANAL, but even if it's neither the former, it's certainly un-ethical. It's certainly a great way to get more people to hate you. It's only a matter of time before someone with enough resources hates you enough to pull you into court or a governmental session and start killing you in the public eye and in the bottom line.