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Open Source In Public K-12 Schools?
MissMachine writes "I'm a computer science major who has been recently getting involved in local grassroots politics in my county and state. I've been discussing the idea with some of my state legislatures of submitting a couple of resolutions, opening up to the idea of switching to open source software in our state's K-12 schools. I'm looking for more information/literature about this topic, open source solutions in public K-12 education, pros and cons, studies that prove or disprove many of the assumptions of open source and linux in public schools. Any help in this field?"
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You don't state a reason why you think it is a good idea to switch.
Which is why, instead of asking for "How to..." she asked for some studies on the subject, presumably so that she might determine whether it is a good idea to switch or not.
It would certainly be _free_, but would it be better?
She didn't even mention that she advocated the switch yet, just that it had been discussed and she needs more information.
Ease up, troll.
One thing you really need to make sure, is that the teachers know that OSS is better. Far too often I have seen people who look at Linux and think that the school could not afford MS products or Macs, not that Linux is better than MS products. Also, make sure that you aren't losing money by going to OSS. For example, if your school just bought brand new Vista machines and Office 2007 licenses for all of them, you might be out of luck. On the other hand if your school uses P4 or slower CPUs and XP or earlier, Linux might just be the thing it needs.
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"You don't state a reason why you think it is a good idea to switch"
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'View a cost comparison chart (pdf) that shows how open source solutions can leverage your costs'
'The use of open technologies in education is now commonplace throughout the world with one notable exception, the United States. School and district technology leaders need to become aware of how these other educational systems are leveraging the use of open technologies to improve student learning, engage parent and community interest in education, provide home access to technologies used in school and use their financial resources in the most effective way possible. Consider these possible benefits
* Cost: License Fees and TCO -
* Data integrity/interoperability -
* Independence and Flexibility -
* Stability and Reliability -
* Broader Access to Information -
* Community Support -
* Engage Students in Collaboration -
Lets face it, Linux users are probably the most intelligent people around. I mean, anyone can learn to be a plumber or electrician, or learn law and become a lawyer, or pick up biology and become a doctor, but having no social skills is something that has to come from inside, and cannot be learnt. Trying to teach OSS ideals to the average student would be a waste of time, they just aren't bright enough to get it. Indeed, as others have said before me, its not that Linux isn't ready for the desktop, people just aren't ready for Linux, and quite frankly the vast majority of the human race never will be; they simply aren't as clever as the average Linux user.
But I'm happy about being a Linux user, happy about being in the 1% of the population intelligent enough to think for themselves and not follow the hurd. The clever people will find Linux, forget the rest, they don't matter.
Make sure you understand that you have a very, very, very wide range of users. I deal with non-tech graduate students all the time(the same age as the youngest teachers in the field) and they are not tech savvy. They can myspace and youtube, and maybe superpoke someone on facebook, but that's it. Don't expect the youngest teachers to be the most techy. You'll find good, older teachers near retirement that can give you a run for your money.
Be aware that most k-12 schools have almost no budget. They can get money for hardware/software purchases, but a *good* tech to handle some of the idiosyncrasies of F/OSS is out of their budgets. A 50 computer lab on a 4 year rotation(many schools would kill for computers that new) only costs around $15,000 a year. They'll come with an os installed and maybe a cheap educational copy of office. To hire someone, say 40k-50k a year + benefits, to put a different os on the desktops is a huge expense.
My suggestion would be to start small. Make the decision making process open and transparent. Ask schools to have a cost/benefit analysis of the software purchases. You'll see your biggest savings in server apps, not desktops.
See if you can get schools to have a traveling tech, consolidate servers, etc. This can be difficult. A lot depends on what state you are in. A midwestern state, with lots of small schools with low enrollments(30-50 in a graduating class) may be better served by server consolidation. On the other hand, if you are in a big city where the graduating class is bigger than the entire k-12 school I graduated from, you'll have a bigger budget and a better chance of getting an onsite tech.
Show them security. Student records are highly confidential. Show them how spending less on the server software can increase their security.
It really comes down to knowing your audience and what they want and expect.
From what I've seen lately, if you put edubuntu on a bunch of machines, the kids will figure out how to use them before the teacher finds the power switch.
Never use the ignorance and laziness of an adult as an excuse to stifle the education and development of a child!
If a school district adopts Linux and open source then who is going to be the admin in charge of updates, patches, server, network, and desktop maintenance, etc?
who does it now? That is your answer. If they cant, then tell them, learn or we need to replace you. Magically they learn.
problem is most schools dont have an answer to the question. One charter school in Detroit used Best Buy! Their school was a mess, the cisco firewall was disconnected and a linksys put in place as the Geek squad moron told them it was better. all the servers were a mess, and the network was a disaster. They hired us to fix it, then told us the contract was too much and went back to "ala-carte" random computer dweeb company for its-on-fire repairs. I think at least 50 people in southfield knows the admin passwords to all their stuff.
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IMHO, the biggest problems with any computer deployment in our K-12 classrooms are always support and training. If a school district adopts Linux and open source then who is going to be the admin in charge of updates, patches, server, network, and desktop maintenance, etc? Competent Linux admins are harder to find than people with at least basic knowledge of Mac and Windows and are likely to cost more too. So unless someone within the district, who will not be any worse off for saying no, wants to step up and take on the task of learning to be a Linux admin who is going to manage the whole affair? Also, how many teachers know how to use Linux or are willing to invest the time required to learn? After all, they cannot teach their students that which they themselves do not know. These are not insubstantial difficulties.
So let me get this right; you need a competent Linux admin; while Windows/Mac don't need an admin at all, just someone with a basic knowledge?
Windows also has the need for patches, server, network and desktop maintenance that Linux does; in addition to having more expensive license requirements; software inventory requirements; anti-virus requirements?
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I disagree. By hiring that linux/unix admin you get an infrastructure that is deployed across the school district and will require little administration. One (or two) people can administer the whole affair (I am thinking primarily network booting with the standard education applications [see k12linux or edubuntu])).
The Microsoft and Mac approaches appear to necessitate a local admin at all times.
While I don't have a problem with the local teacher administering the computers, those teachers that only care about computers as a tool, can use them as such. Program to accomplish task X is installed at the beginning of the setup and reviewed with the teacher yearly, bi-annually, etc.
Teaching has been around for a long time. There is a cirriculum that is fairly constant to be met. Just as periodic reviews allow for said cirriculum to be updated with newer methods of teaching, so to can periodic review of programs result in better programs to fulfill said teaching need.
The object is to teach kids, not just teach them computers.
This pops up on slashdot every couple of months. Let me outline the reasons this is difficult from the perspective of one school. It sounds like you're trying to push forward an unfunded mandate. You're going to get a lot of pushback once people realize what you're trying to do.
- Apps. Educational software is often poorly written, and is written for mac and windows, not linux. One of the k-12 schools I work with has 350 applications, perhaps 330 which would have to be replaced under your plan. The K-5 students don't use openoffice, they use Reader Rabbit, there is no OSS substitute, and forget about making it work under wine. 6-12 use some generic office type apps, but also educational software. Keep in mind that entire curriculum and courses are sometimes tied to an app. You're not just replacing an app, you're asking teachers to re-write their curriculum. We're not just talking about typing software, we need software that keeps track of students performance and can run reports showing progress, comparing classes, etc...
- Hardware. IT budgets in schools are often small. You can get E-Rate money for some servers and network gear, but printers, digital cams, etc... are often old. Will your hardware work with Linux? What about the hardware your teachers use without your knowledge. Can you afford to replace it? If you replace old printers, you'll end up throwing away all your stock of ink, plus the ink you didn't know the teachers were hoarding. Some hardware is directly tied to an app for a class, you'll have to throw it away, you run into the same curriculum issues as with the software.
- Support. You'll need to support it. This means replacing or training your existing (unionized) staff. My experience is that schools typically employee underqualified staff. Clicking on things is rough, editing text files is really rough. If the staff can't handle the new tasks, can you replace them? This is a union and politics problem, and not an easy one.
- Training. You need to retrain teachers and staff. You'll again run into union issues, teachers are only required to do x hours of professional development per year, they simply won't take training classes, no matter how easy you make it. Keep in mind that teachers are continually asked to do more work with the same or less time/money, and you'll be asking them to relearn to do things. You might not be making any friends here.
Here how this does work, it'll take a few years...
First, do your TCO studies, show how there are no licensing issues. Licensing is a huge headache, solving that issue will win you friends it makes rolling out apps faster. Make sure the administration is onboard and working toward your goal. Doing all this is pointless if the superintendent comes back from a conference and decrees that everyone should have application X, which only works under Windows.
Modify your technology plan to require that any purchased software is web based and standards compliant. I've worked with "web based" apps that only work on IE, or require special plugins and etc... You'll end up losing a lot of functionality.
Take existing apps for which there are no good web based substitutes and see if they work with wine.
Roll out both of the above to one or two labs. Run them that way for at least a month. Make sure that your lab has an assigned lab aide, someone who takes ownership of the lab and is physically present when classes are using it. Keep on top of things, people probably won't report problems. When there are problems, solve them quickly.
that is the state of the US educator base, they are what I would consider computer illiterate. And because this _is_ the current state of our educators, providing all the students with complete access to all the software they could dream of via the open source software, those students who _get it_ and become the next generation of educators or admins, will improve the system. As it is today, only those with a large financial backing can even hope to become a computer admin because of all the costs associated with purchasing proprietary software and the hardware to run it.
Think about the OLPC where the idea is that the previous years students help the following years students and on and on. After only a few years, a huge leap in learning and understanding has grown from the student pool. Doesn't anyone believe that one of the freshmen or sophomores could be hired as an admin intern after 3 years of in depth usage of what was available in class and what was available for free in OSS after school?
IMO, this is why the Bill and Melinda Gates Froundation does not let schools and libraries use open source software when they accept money from them. It turns Microsoft into the hasbeen it should have been back in the early 90s.
So here is this cute 4.5 year old girl in the Microsoft ad doing all kinds of amazing things with her computer. The problem, she has no income and must rely on her parents to buy her more software as she gets tired of just posting pictures. In the OSS world, not only does that little girl get access to thousands of free applications, so does everyone with access to a computer and not just those who have working moms and dads. _THAT_ is what open source software brings to K-12. IMO.
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