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Obama Helicopter Security Breached By File Sharing

Hugh Pickens writes "A company that monitors peer-to-peer file-sharing networks has discovered a potentially serious security breach involving President Barack Obama's helicopter. 'We found a file containing entire blueprints and avionics package for Marine One, which is the president's helicopter,' says Bob Boback, CEO of Tiversa, a security company that specializes in peer-to-peer technology. Tiversa was able to track the file, discovered at an IP address in Tehran, Iran, back to its original source. 'What appears to be a defense contractor in Bethesda, Md., had a file-sharing program on one of their systems that also contained highly sensitive blueprints for Marine One,' says Boback, adding that someone from the company most likely downloaded a file-sharing program, typically used to exchange music, without realizing the potential problems. 'I'm sure that person is embarrassed and may even lose their job, but we know where it came from and we know where it went.' Iran is not the only country that appears to be accessing this type of information through file-sharing programs. 'We've noticed it out of Pakistan, Yemen, Qatar and China. They are actively searching for information that is disclosed in this fashion because it is a great source of intelligence.'"

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  1. Why is this tagged "Windows"? by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure that stupid/careless employees can leak sensitive information through P2P on any OS. I'm not aware that any of the OSX/nix installs search any less widely for shared folders than the Windows versions.

    Stupidity is definitely OS-independent.

  2. "windows" article tag biased by v1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of these P2P apps share your entire home or your entire computer by default when you first install them, it's up to you to go in and shut that stuff off, or at least define a specific folder to share from rather than the default.

    Tagging this with "windows" isn't fair - it can affect any other system equally, this isn't a software problem, it's a user or developer issue. For example, I've worked on numerous macs with Limewire installed on them that are sharing all the user's music automatically by default.

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  3. Outside connected machines by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Should be *banned* for security areas. If you need 'outside' for a valid reason you provide a dedicated machine for that purpose.

    Its pretty simple. That company should be fired, not just the fool that caused the leak.

    And i don't care what OS it runs, anything less then the above is plain reckless.

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  4. This is why by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... and this is why you have draconian policies in many companies about installing ANY unapproved software. I've seen people complain about "just let me do my job" and install anything they want, but the fact of the matter is that it only takes one dumb-ass like this to wreak major havoc.

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  5. Re:takes 2 to tango by Rich0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uh, data like this shouldn't even be on a computer with a physical link to the internet at all. Classified data should stay on classified networks. Period.

    I know a guy at a defense contractor. They isolate their networks containing classified data. If they need to remove a file from the room they reimage a desktop with a known safe image, copy the file onto that PC from a CD burned from a classified PC. They then scrub the files with software that does stuff like wipe unallocated space, check for word versions, PDF comments, etc. Then that desktop is used to burn a new CD with just the intended files. Then they securely wipe the desktop. That one CD that was created in this fashion is then allowed to leave the room. Note that this is the gist of how it works - some details may be less than accurate (obviously I'm not privy to the exact procedures, but this is the general level of rigor involved).

    Even if somebody installed Kazaa or its like on one of the computers in that room it wouldn't be able to leak data - there are no network connections that are attached to the internet. If somebody needs to check email or browse the web they leave the room (carrying nothing with them) and go to another desk in a regular office area, which has a fairly secure network but something more akin to what you'd find in any decently secured corporate network. Of course, installing kazaa in the first place would be difficult since you're not supposed to carry anything into or out of the classified areas - I don't know if they get searched at the door but you would certainly be fired and potentially prosecuted if you were caught doing it intentionally.

    Important datacenters like those found in stock exchanges / etc are similar. The datacenter is secured, network access is very carefully controlled, and to do anything important you need to have physical access to a room with cameras pointed everywhere and every task involves two people at the keyboard at all times.

    There is no excuse for these kinds of breaches. Strong security isn't actually hard. It is certainly expensive, and it is certainly inconvenient. However, it really isn't hard - you just need to be methodical.

  6. Re:Cue the Hysteria... by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think there's anything unfair about the summary. P2P applications are a security risk, and I know I don't allow my users to install them on their work computers.

    Let me put it this way: Any time you're setting a computer up to be a server on the Internet, it's always a security risk. There are risks associated with bugs and things like that, but also (and perhaps more importantly) there are risks associated with misconfiguration. This is very relevant for P2P applications, which might come configured by default to share files that you don't want to share.

    So yes, if people with high security clearances are installing Kazaa on their work computers and sharing out all their documents, then "OMG file sharers are breaching national security!"

  7. Re:Cue the Hysteria... by phorest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's even more profit in REPLACING the now 'breached' current presidential helicopter fleet over these blueprints.
    Don't even think that this has primary IT implications.
    This is more about giving the polititians cover to continue the cost overruns.

    Lockheed-Martin signed a contract four years ago to build 28 new helicopters for $6.1 billion. Numerous Pentagon-mandated changes have ballooned the price tag to $11.2 billion - meaning each of the new choppers would cost $400 million, or as much as Air Force One.

    Marine One Upgrade Plan Stirs Debate

    A helicopter (one) that costs as much as (one) Boeing 747!

    Wow...

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  8. Re:Cue the Hysteria... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. but most importantly:

    1. the idiots that believed the story. :rolleyes:

  9. Re:Cue the Hysteria... by NormalVisual · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should be asking what a contractor is doing putting classified information on his "walking around" laptop.

    From the article:

    "Clark told WPXI that he doesn't know how sensitive this information is, but he said other military information has been found on the Internet in the past and should be monitored more closely."

    Nothing in the article said the information was classified, so it looks to me like it's kind of a "mountain out of a molehill" kind of thing - there's plenty of information about military hardware out there that looks scary to someone that doesn't know anything about the subject matter, but is strategically/tactically useless just the same. Similar information regarding the VC-25 fleet has been out there for some time, and I don't trust a reporter or employee of a peer-to-peer company to be able to evaluate whether something contains full documentation of "entire blueprints and avionics package for Marine One".

    I worked for several years for a Navy contractor in their submarine combat systems department. Anything, *anything* that was classified was A.) kept in an area with physical access controls (often including unfriendly guys with guns), B.) if available electronically, was on a separate network physically inaccessible from outside that controlled area, and C.) if anything had to go outside that controlled area (software updates for the boats, for instance), there was a two-man protocol to be followed, with one of our guys and one of the Navy guys in custody 24x7 of whatever media had classified data on it. Even assuming the article is correct and there was truly useful information made available, the problem isn't that file-sharing is bad, or that Windows is insecure - the problem is that both the contractor and the agency they serve had lapses in their security protocol that would let such information anywhere near a non-secured network, and the appropriate security audits weren't taking place.

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  10. What security depends on a helicopters blueprints? by naasking · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What sort of security depends on the secrecy of a helicopter's blueprints? Honestly.

  11. Re:Cue the Hysteria... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To use the claasic "car analogy" it's like driving around in a smashed-up pinto versus a brand-new Volvo. If you're worried about surviving an accident the choice of vehicles is obvious.

    And people still die in Volvos. Yes, it may be harder to do so, but the uberidiot will always find a way.

    The poster implied that that using something other than Windows would have been better. I posit that this particular user would have screwed the pooch no matter what OS they were on. This was not a built-in vulnerability of Windows (of which there are many). This was a built-in vulnerability of being an idiot user.

  12. This person is screwed, and should be. by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "adding that someone from the company most likely downloaded a file-sharing program, typically used to exchange music, without realizing the potential problems. 'I'm sure that person is embarrassed and may even lose their job, but we know where it came from and we know where it went.'"

    Hell....lose his/her job?

    If they're lucky that will be all they lose. When you're doing DoD work for the Feds....you sign some pretty heavy forms about your responsibilities and the ramifications if you break them....accident or not.

    If this asshole did this with what I would have to guess was secure information....putting these plans on a non-secure computer, that alone can get you some heavy legal problems, and possibly jail time.

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