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Analyzing Microsoft's Linux Lawsuit

jammag writes "Open source advocate Bruce Perens takes a close look at Microsoft's lawsuit against TomTom (discussed here last week), which involves an implementation of the Linux kernel, and calls it essentially a paper tiger. He notes: 'the technologies claimed in the 8 patents involved are so old and obvious that it's fair to say they have a high "Duh!" factor. There's an anti-trust angle to this suit that could blow up in Microsoft's face. And there's a high probability that some or all of the patents involved are invalid, due to recent court decisions.' Although the legal expense for TomTom to defend itself in court could be astronomical — meaning they may be forced to settle — in Perens' view Microsoft is aware its case is weak, yet hopes for a PR victory at limited cost." And reader nerdyH adds speculation from Open Innovation Network CEO Keith Bergelt that Redmond's action could be retaliation for TomTom's spurning a Microsoft acquisition bid in 2006.

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  1. The enemy of my enemy . . . by MarkvW · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tom Tom, from what I've read, has been a bad open-source citizen. Nevertheless, all Linux users have a shared interest in defending Linux against FUD. It would be so cool if the Linux community swarmed this problem. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" seems to apply here. If MS is squashed here, there much less likely to go after even smaller businesses and people.

    1. Re:The enemy of my enemy . . . by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think you are probably right, but for different reasons. If the Linux and F/OSS community swarmed this problem with viral PR for TomTom (thus against MS and proprietary IP litigation happy megolithics) it would possibly change how small companies are seen. Care would need to be taken that the PR is aimed at promoting goodness of Linux and F/OSS in general. You couldn't really do an "Hi, I'm a Mac" ads, but that would be the idea. Viral because there is no big financial war chest to draw from. What the Internet did for political candidates, it perhaps could do for F/OSS and GNU/Linux in particular.

      "Intel Inside" would pale next to a well done "Linux Inside" advert.

      So, coming to the aid of TomTom via the promotion of F/OSS and statements against the financial and business crippling effects of litigation, how it drives up prices for consumer goods, limits research/development etc. and so on would go far to help TomTom. Launching the goodness campaign in response to the TomTom lawsuit would be a good start, but it would need to continue for some time. The goal being that F/OSS is seen as a better choice than proprietary software; that open hardware and standards improve things, not cheapen them. On and on, We'd have to show who the enemies are, publicly and without prejudice. There are many organizations already working at this, it just needs to go viral.

  2. Re:question by omar.sahal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    considering Bruce Perens consults on avoiding licence issues for a living we can take his words seriously.
    I know this is a bit vague, but as we already have initiatives for collecting of patents could there be a pool of cash collected from donors (as in small amounts of monthly donations from any interested individuals). Any company could then fight patent trolls by then putting in a nominal amount into the fund and getting support from the fund to protect its self against bodies trying to sue it. The threat of having to settle despite a week claim would then disappear, and Linux would be helped.

  3. EFF as a friend of the court? by shentino · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This case of david versus goliath sounds worthy of the EFF's attention...or soemthing.

    Tomtom needs help, not because he's right, but because he's an ally.

    MS is up to no good here, as usual.

    1) If MS wins, FAT implementations will get smacked down quickly due to the effect of a cascading precedent. This includes linux mounting a floppy disk OR a flash drive OR a camera OR... need I go on?
    2) If MS forces a favorable settlement, the chill factor will freeze out competitors
    3) If MS settles out, we get nothing
    4) If MS loses the case, we have victory.

    Anyone who can call MS out as bullshit and back it up, get in touch with TomTom AND his lawyers post haste.

  4. Fight Fire With Napalm : Perjury, a federal crime by NZheretic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    IANAL but IMHO, TomTom's lawyers should:
    1) request to deposition all the individual inventors named in the patents;
    2) inform the inventors that they should have independent legal representation, since submitting false claims to the USPTO is perjury, a federal crime in the USA;
    3) at the deposition really closely grill each inventor over each patent's prior art and obviousness;
    4) then ask the inventors what advice Microsoft's patent department and lawyers gave to the inventors regarding each patent's prior art and obviousness ( Lawyer client confidentiality is not necessarily a two way street );
    5) start building a case for the disbarment of any of Microsoft's lawyers who gave any advice or prodding to the inventors to ignore existing prior art and obviousness;
    6) re-write many Microsoft's patent claims in technical English ( removing legal patent jargon ) and publish the result;
    7) put out a call to the technical community for written and signed statements regarding the obvious nature of the patent claims;
    8) fully publicise the outcomes of steps 1-7.

  5. Re:Fight Fire With Napalm : Perjury, a federal cri by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to the assistant director of the patent office, they haven't prosecuted a perjury case since 1974. They shut down their enforcement department. So, if you lie, all you can lose is your patent. And someone else might have to spend millions, and kill his own company, to make that happen.

    It seems that every part of the system is engineered to reward the person with bad intentions.

  6. Re:Yes, but... by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But TomTom has gone much farther than trying to use the ideas.. they are implementing the file system verbatim for obvious (its a standard, be compatible) reasons, and thats much worse than simply working off the ideas.

    We can argue all day long that anything FAT32 shouldn't be patented from a moral standpoint, but at the end of the day there are numerous patents related to FAT32 that are still on the books, unexpired.

    ..certainly cannot blame Microsoft for trying to defend a patent that was granted to them, especialy if the abuser is in direct competition in a marketplace. If this was NTFS the situation would be a little more clear, but because its "the standard" FAT32, some people cannot see the similarity.

    TomTom chose FAT32 for economic reasons.. they should have to pay the costs of that choice.

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  7. Re:question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Except some of us lawyers didn't begin as drunken poli-sci majors, we began as Comp Sci majors. And some of us might still think sladotters are arrogant in their assumptions re: legal issues.

    Seriously, you don't just start commenting out parts of code when something doesn't work, do you? No, you try to understand it first and then try and debug it. From the comments I've seen over the last several years, slashdotters have done little to understand legal matters and instead spout vitriol from their soapboxes, coming across no better or of more reliable opinion on something outside their field than Richard M. Zealot.

    While I don't think engineers would have any difficulty parsing the law - I didn't have any trouble with the materials in law school other than the outdated Rule Against Perpetuities - far fewer slashdotters have put in the time that is required to understand legal theory than those that comment (and often get modded +1 insightful).

  8. Re:question by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Very good point. At the time of the Novell - Microsoft pact, I was arguing with Bruce here on Slashdot over how evil/ not evil it was and I generally sided with Microsoft. Well, not anymore. I've replaced Suse with another distro that does not have a pact with Microsoft, and am no longer convinced that microsoft is a gentle giant. It is clear that they are abusing their monopoly in this act. And I was a defender of Microsoft (at times) in the anti trust case in the late 90's. This is much much worse in my eyes than bundling IE with windows ever was.

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  9. Re:question by m.ducharme · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's also the fact that most lawyers know that giving any kind of legal opinion based on someone's article (or worse yet, a summary) is a mug's game. I'm in law school, and I've noticed that some of the hardest concepts for us new students to internalize is that

    1) matters like this are almost always more complicated than they appear to be from the outside,
    2) there are likely unseen (by us) details that may be crucial in determining the case,
    3) ultimately, the law is what a judge and jury says it is (within certain limits that vary depending on circumstances), and
    4) there are many, many situations where there isn't really a right answer.

    Lawyers learn painfully that in a situation like this, looking in from the outside, one has to make so many assumptions about facts, law, etc, that an opinion rendered here is practically meaningless. With that being the case, why bother stating anything here more complicated than a basic background of the law? Especially when your opinion is going to be accorded a great deal of weight by the others here, which leads to the kind of problems you suggested to the GP.

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