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Uproar Over Netflix's New Instant Viewer

almechist writes "Many Netflix customers are up in arms over the new instant-watch player powered by Microsoft's Silverlight. The official Netflix blog is full of complaints from users who decry not only the new player's quality but also the way it's being distributed, with many claiming they were deceived into downloading it. Once you opt for the new player, the old Windows Media based player won't function, not on any computer associated with the account. The new player is supposedly still beta, but NF members are strongly encouraged (some say tricked) by NF into the so-called 'upgrade,' which is permanent — there is no way to opt out. The marked decrease in video quality seen by those who have switched is perhaps not surprising, since the old player could utilize bit streams up to twice as fast as the new one, but this information is nowhere given out by NF. So far NF has been answering all complaints with variations on 'tough luck pal, you're stuck with it,' but many customers are so disgusted they're ready to cancel their NF membership. This could be a public relations disaster in the making for Netflix."

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  1. Re:Uninstall Reinstall? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    I mean, no one RTFA, but not even the summary?!

    Once you opt for the new player, the old Windows Media based player won't function, not on any computer associated with the account.

    It looks like a flag is set for the account when you "upgrade."

  2. kdawson by Drive42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    =FUD. I have never seen an article penned by him (or her) that does not over-exaggerate the facts of the matter. The silverlight player has been out for a few months now. To have 480-odd complaints in that time, considering the size of Netflix's user base, while not great, is not that significant.

    The implementation of silverlight is still an important problem because of the DRM and the possible incompatibilities and bugs, but it is nowhere a "disaster".

    kdawson does nothing positive for slashdot. He should be removed. His entries sound like the worst kind of hellraising politics.

  3. OS X Support by georgevulov · · Score: 5, Informative

    Personally, I am very happy with the new Silverlight-based movie player. The Windows Media Player-based solution offered no OS X support and I was forced to use VirtualBox to watch NF movies.

    Also, in my experience the new player loads much faster and fast forwarding and rewinding works much better. I have not noticed a decrease in quality, probably because my Internet connection wasn't fast enough in the first place to get the highest-quality streams.

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  4. Re:so just quit by fyrie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Netflix has responded to complaints in the past. At one point they were going to ditch multiple profiles/queues per account, but they decided to keep them after the uproar.

  5. It's the encoder, stupid. by Silverlancer · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are pretty much three choices for streaming video right now:

    1. Crappy encoder, low bitrate. This is what Youtube went with originally--they used FLV1 (Sorenson H.263) video, which at the time was the only real option (other than VP6, which wasn't much better). They went with 350kbps video. The result was pretty awful, but it worked for Youtube videos. It's free, so people will tolerate it. But for a paid service, such quality is absurd.

    2. Crappy encoder, high bitrate. This is what Stage6 did; they used DivX, which, while better than FLV1, wasn't too much better. But what they did was allow absurdly high bitrates; I saw bitrates over 12 megabits per second for standard definition video! Of course, we all know what happened to Stage6; upon realizing the sheer amount of money that such bitrates cost, they went out of business, sort of like Wile. E. Coyote falling to the ground only after realizing that he was standing on air.

    3. Good encoder, low bitrate. Facebook does ~600kbps standard definition video, and it looks great. Vudu does 1080p video on demand at 2.8mbps. Youtube now does 720p HD at 2 megabits. What do they have in common? They use x264 for encoding.

    NetFlix chose to use VC-1 instead, and as a result they have 1.5 megabit standard definition streams that look like crap. And they don't even have an excuse anymore, because Silverlight supports H.264. Which is rather odd, actually, as Microsoft has been pushing for years to try to replace H.264 in the marketplace with their vastly inferior VC-1. Maybe they've given up because their campaign just isn't working.

  6. Re:Uninstall Reinstall? by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Informative

    except that new accounts get no choice.

    I recently signed up and never new about anything other than the silverlight player.

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  7. Re:so just quit by hansamurai · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just signed up two months ago and my wife and I each have their own queue. Sign in and go to this page and add a profile.

    https://www.netflix.com/ViewProfiles

  8. Re:Frog, pot, increased heat by TheLongshot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Which doesn't work with my monitor, since I have an older flat panel that isn't HDCP compliant. It makes the service completely useless to me.

  9. Re:Secret reason for this change! by zerocool6900 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually I've been using Netflix for over a year and they haven't tried to throttle me. I get 3 to 4 movies each week.

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