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Amazon Releases iPhone Kindle Software

palmsolo writes "The Amazon Kindle 2 just started shipping last week, but Amazon surprised everyone late on March 3rd by placing the Amazon Kindle software for the iPhone in the Apple App Store. With the Whispersync technology you can now keep your Kindle and iPhone ebooks in sync and read everywhere you go. Readers on the iPhone also now get access to over 200,000 ebook titles on the Amazon Kindle storefront. Check out the hands-on image gallery and video of the Amazon Kindle software on the iPhone and Kindle 2."

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  1. Just what the world needs... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thousands of iPhone zombies squinting into tiny little screens, walking into cars, telephone poles, other zombies.This world is getting out of hand.

    Actually, I'm just jealous. I couldn't possibly read that tiny little type.

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    1. Re:Just what the world needs... by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thousands of iPhone zombies squinting into tiny little screens, walking into cars...

      Never mind them, some will be driving cars.

    2. Re:Just what the world needs... by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've done a very significant amount of reading on devices as small or smaller than the iPhone. Originally it was all Pocket PCs, and more recently my Blackberry Pearl and iPod Touch. I end up doing most reading on my Blackberry (recently Moby Dick, The Stand and the Lord of the Rings trilogy) simply because I've always got it with me, and it's convenient to pull it out and fill in little downtime here and there.

      I've contemplated actual dedicated ebook reader hardware, like the Kindle, but most of my reading is done when I don't have anything better to do, regardless of where I'm at. The spontaneity of always having the ebook with me without having to consciously bring it along or keep track of extra hardware is what allows me to do much reading in the first place.

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    3. Re:Just what the world needs... by Shikaku · · Score: 5, Funny

      +1 Darwin

    4. Re:Just what the world needs... by BrettJB · · Score: 5, Funny

      -1 Collateral Damage

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    5. Re:Just what the world needs... by tobrien101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am legally blind, so usually reading on my iPod Touch is out of the question. I just tested the Kindle app out with my wife's Kindle account. I can actually read the largest font settings with my reading glasses. I don't think I could read on the iPhone for a long time, but I certainly could do it for short periods of time. I have to hold the device up to my face, which is uncomfortable, but I have to do that with anything I read. The Touch is lighter than any of Neal Stephenson's books, even the paperbacks.

  2. It's About Time by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Amazon Releases iPhone Kindle Software

    Finally I won't have to huddle around a pile of tinder in the forest, rubbing two iPhones together just to get a spark to light my campfire.

    We lived like cavemen before iPhone software.

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    1. Re:It's About Time by dosun88888 · · Score: 5, Funny

      if you'd ever fallen asleep with a Mac on your lap you'd realize that Apple solved the kindling problem already.

      Posted from a Macbook Pro on my boiling genitals.

  3. The article doesn't seem to answer a basic questio by joeflies · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do you need a Kindle to use this iphone app? The article only talks about the benefits of using the app with the kindle, but for all of those that don't have one, can we use the app and buy ebooks on the amazon store?

  4. Sitting ducks again by mastropiero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cue the author's guild bitching about how they lose money because now their ebooks can be read by two devices instead of just one in 3...2...1...

  5. And the Kindle software platform era begins by Vandil+X · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Amazon probably makes plenty of money off eBook sales. With tons of iPhone and iPod Touch users using Stanza and other eBook readers, it only makes sense to support this market. Now instead of having Amazon eBook sales tied to Kindle hardware, they can tie to iPhones and iPod Touches too.

    While I don't think this will do anything to get iPhone/iPod Touch users to buy a Kindle, it will certainly quintuple their Kindle eBook sales.

    Watch the Kindle software platform become available on other devices (Android, Windows Mobile) in the near future.

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  6. Re:The article doesn't seem to answer a basic ques by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No Kindle is needed. You can buy books using a web browser on your PC and have the books sent wirelessly to your iPhone/iPod touch.

  7. Also ipod touch by proxima · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The summary doesn't make it clear, but the article mentions that it also works with the iPod touch. Considering the touch is smaller, lighter, and much cheaper than both the iPhone and the Kindle, this application might give a significant boost to readers looking for a (relatively) inexpensive reader.

    Having read long books on old Palm PDAs, the size of the screen is only a minor annoyance. Those PDAs, though, were not backlit LCDs. Some people might find an iPod screen too fatiguing for long reading.

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  8. Re:Predicted by iamhassi · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It's almost like I predicted this"

    wait... you predicted that Amazon would someday support iPhones? You're amazing!

    What's your next prediction?

    mark me as flamebait/troll, i have karma to burn, but come on, that's a pretty dumb thing to say on /., that you predicted that Company XYZ would support iPhones someday.

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  9. Compromise to DRM? by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Amazon starts allowing its software to be used on _any_ platform, whether it be iPhone, Kindle, Laptop, Netbook, or 3rd Party eBook Reader, would that be an acceptable compromise to the fact that their e-books use DRM?

    Valve's Steam has shown that people (even Geeks who notoriously hate DRM) are willing to compromise and use DRM if something of great enough value is offered with it (and possibly because of it).

  10. iPhone Resolution by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The screen won't get larger, but most rumors say the next iPhone (much like the G2 launching in April) will feature an OLED screen with much higher resolution. It will use less battery, and be slimmer.

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    1. Re:iPhone Resolution by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The screen won't get larger, but most rumors say the next iPhone (much like the G2 launching in April) will feature an OLED screen with much higher resolution. It will use less battery, and be slimmer.

      I hope so. Resolution is a big deal. I can easily read text without zooming in on most pages (for instance, this one) on my 640x480 htc diamond display. I tried an iphone briefly after I got the diamond and while it was very slick in a lot of ways, I couldn't handle the lower resolution for web browsing. I have only so-so vision and I imagined pixel density would make high resolution on these little screens pointless, but I was wrong. An iphone with at an 800x600 display would more than double my interest.

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  11. Re:I couldn't possibly read that tiny little type. by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use the Ereader.com ebook reader for the iPhone, and I have to say that the standard font size and type is barely any different from a standard book when held at the same distance. I have absolutely no trouble at all reading books on my iPhone, and its always with me anyway.

  12. Re:Text-to-speech will squash audio books by blhack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the quality issue will change.

    I don't know about this, at least not in the near future, and probably not on a device as weak (computationally) as the kindle.

    There is a lot *more* to speech that the words, the sounds of the letters. Speech is music, words are like tabs.

    Every tried to play a guitar song by looking at a tab and having never heard the song before? Or tried to sing karaoke? Its hard. Its almost impossible to get it right.
    Computers are trying to do the same thing with text-to-speech. Text doesn't tell you what sort of inflection to use, what sort of cadence to use, says nothing of dynamic range. (can you see that I'm trying to draw a correlation between speech and music).

    More analogies:
    Text-To-Speech is a lot like trying to get a concert masterpiece from a midi file...except that even the midi file is telling you WHEN to play the notes. The text doesn't even do that.
    A lof of the cues that we use to read speech naturally comes from our ability to "render" whatever scene we're reading from in our head, and use the cues from the scene to act out the part of whatever we're reading (be it the narrator, or a character, or a journalist in a magazine article).

    Is it possible to replace human speech with a computer? Yes, most definitely. Is it practical to do it in something like the kindle with current technology?
    No.

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  13. Tried it out by chrisgeleven · · Score: 5, Informative

    Surprisingly it is quite readable even on the iPhone's small screen. You just swipe your finger across the screen to flip back/forth through the pages. There is options to change the font size, so really the only complaint you can have is how much/little text fits on the screen before you have to flip a page.

    There are some free books on the Kindle Store (mostly classics like Treasure Island and some religious texts like the Bible), so there is no cost to try out the Kindle iPhone app.

    Really cool how you buy via your web browser. Next time you open the Kindle app, it just automatically syncs what you have just purchased to the iPhone. Since it is just text, it takes just seconds to sync. Should not be painful to use even in poor signal locations and on EDGE. Plus you can download any purchase you make for free again in the future.

    I don't know if if I would buy all of my books this way (I lately have been using the local library), but in a pinch (say on a trip) when I want a book to read and don't want to or can't stop by a bookstore or library, this could work very well.

  14. Re:The article doesn't seem to answer a basic ques by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think they focused on the benefit of using this app with the Kindle because... well, the first question that popped into my head was, "If I buy a book on my iPhone and then get a Kindle in a few months, will I be able to transfer my books over to the Kindle, or are they going to try to make me buy them all again?"

    Once I had gotten past that thought, my next question might have been, "Well how hard will it be to transfer books from one to the other? Will Amazon provide a mechanism for that?" If I had gotten past those two, I'd like to think I'd be clever enough to ask at some point, "Can they provide any method for me to read on my one device and have my place synced over to the other so I can pick up right where I left off?"

    It looks like Amazon may have covered their bases pretty well.

  15. Re:Just out of curiosity... by PyroMosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you not think that this would be of interest to slashdot? Do you honestly think that this site, with millions of users, would have nobody submit this as a story, and that none of the editors would post it?

    So what you're saying is that you think it's more likley that this is astroturfing, than just you know, the people who use this site happening to think this is cool news? I for one think it's neat.

  16. Fonts by n9uxu8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Always make sure you preview a sample before buying though. The font choices for some of these are just inexplicably bad. Check out Zoe's Tale vs An Autumn War. The AWA font is terrible...

  17. Re:I couldn't possibly read that tiny little type. by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having just counted a random page, my iPhone eReader app shows 115 words, in three paragraphs, using the Helvetica Medium font. Perfectly readable and enough on the screen so that you aren't disturbed by the frequency of turning pages.

    But then I'm certain you have never actually tried reading an ebook on an iPhone, just trolling.

  18. And as usual US-only by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not available in the Canadian app-store (or in Europe).

    I really am saddened by this aspect of 'progress', you can order physical CDs, DVDs, kindles, anything from all over the world and nobody has an issue with that, but the second anything becomes distributed electronically boom, we're transported to this strange super-protectionistic world where things do not move freely anymore.

    I fear for tomorrow's world, where instead of being exposed to music, shows, books, tv, from other countries you will just be able to read, listen and watch to things 'approved' by some company somewhere.

    And let's not talk about people learning a foreign language: say you're studying German and you'd love to read some German books and watch some shows from Amazon.de, sorry, no way. Or maybe you live in Brazil and you'd like to improve your English by reading books, listening to music and watching shows over the internet, nossiree, not gonna happen.

    It seems that modern technology is more and more used as a 'control' technology, vs an 'enabling' technology, which is quite sad as it just promotes an extremely insular world, instead of the free exchange of information.

    I really hope that, as it happened to the music DRM, at some point the 'powers that be' will realize that this attitude is completely wrong, but given the latest salvo by the book authors about the kindle's text-to-speech functionality (which could've helped a lot of blind or non-native-English speakers) I am really not sure if it will ever happen.

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  19. Re:Just out of curiosity... by Cornwallis · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, what I was saying was: "How much does it cost to place these ads on /.?"

  20. Re:Text-to-speech will squash audio books by Tacvek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Very true. With the top text to speech software available, plus additional annotations amnually added to the ebook, a very pleasent experience could be had.

    Consider the addition of a pronunciation key for text-specific words that the automatic pronunciation deduction gets wrong, along with per sentence (or group of words) metadata to indicate things like tempo, word spacing, pitch, etc. Combine this with a sufficiently configurable TTS engine, and the result could be remarkable similar to an audiobook. Character dialog could be differentiated to the point of giving each character a unique voice, along with the appropriate variations in dialog as per context. An annoyed character may end up talking lower and deeper with a more monotonic quality to the voice, for example.

    Perhaps that sounds like a lot of work. But with some software a person could define the narrator and character voices, along with names, and have the software run through thhe text, and attempt to attch the metadata to text with a variety of algorithms, which can be slightly agressive, since mistakes will be corrected. It should be reasonably possible for software to fairly accurately determine which character is speaking each line of dialog from the text, and mark those, and even look for adverbs on the associated sentence ("1.21 Gigawatts", he correctly quickly.) and attach modifieres to the dialog.

    Then the person would just listen to the book, stopping it wherever there is a problem (mispronounced word, attributed dialog, etc.) and making corrections. I'd imagine the time for the read-through and corrections for many works would be not much more than 5-10 times the final length of the work. Initial setup, especially crafting character voices may add some significant time to the beginning though.

    So it sounds feasible with today's technology to have a near audiobook quality TTS-based reading, although it make take a similar amount of time as recording an audiobook to construct each.

    Of course, if Kindle had such features, the tts-related complaints would probably be valid.

    But that is all a far cry from the TTS accurately inferring all of that from the text on the fly, which of course would be far more desirable.

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  21. Re:The article doesn't seem to answer a basic ques by fm6 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Last I checked you weren't allowed the privilege of purchasing an amazon ebook without having a Kindle registered to your account.

    Did you bother to look since this announcement? Web pages do change, or so I've heard.

    You need a book light for an ebook reader? Seriously?

    You need a book light because it's epaper. Just like regular paper, it doesn't emit any light of its own. The upside with this is that the display only draws power when you turn the page. I think that the convenience of having a device that you can use continuously for days without recharging kind of outweighs the inconvenience of having to provide your own light source.

  22. Now introducing: the iPhondle by ChipMonk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not? Most geeks will use it for their own pleasure.

  23. No Newspapers or Magazines. Only Books by proc_tarry · · Score: 4, Informative

    I subscribe to the Financial Times on my Kindle. I just installed the iPhone app and FT is not available to download, only the books I've purchased.