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Gravitational Waves May Have Been Detected In 1987

KentuckyFC writes "In 1987, a physicist called Joe Weber claimed to have detected gravitational waves at the same time that other scientists spotted a supernova called SN1987A. His claims were largely ignored because of calculations showing that gravitational waves could not be strong enough to be picked up by Weber's equipment, a set of giant aluminium cylinders designed to vibrate as the waves passed by. But these calculations were based on first order effects in the way spacetime can be distorted. Now a new analysis shows that second order effects can enhance gravitational waves by four orders of magnitude, but only when certain asymmetries are present. It turns out that SN1987A possesses just the right kind of asymmetries to make this enhancement possible because the supernova wasn't entirely spherical. Which means that Weber, who died in 2000, may have been the first to see gravitational waves after all."

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  1. How much by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How much does it have to suck to die, with your observations being discredited, and your claims laughed at? Then a decade later, the scientific community goes "oops, you were right".

    And now, in Slashdot's infinite wisdom, I am required to wait five minutes between posts.

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  2. Re:Honor by dk90406 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is not great news. This is (great) speculative news. It is interesting and inspires hope, but I seriously doubt that the scientific community will accept this as proof.
    We are talking '87 and there are too many unknowns in the experimental setup, that no-one can clarify now. Did a truck drive by here in '87?

  3. Re:Honor by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, science is supposed to be a process of observe, hypothesise, test, repeat. You can discard theories that don't fit hypotheses, but discarding observations because they don't fit theories is the exact opposite of science. This is the kind of behaviour I would expect from people preaching intelligent design, not from anyone who deserves the title of scientist.

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  4. Re:Honor by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course, discarding observations because the error margin was then considered too big makes a lot of sense. That is what happened.

    The theory that was used to reject the observations was the same one being tested. That's circular. God forbid anyone actually inject reality into that feedback loop of the purely theoretical.

    I can't tell you how many times truly new knowledge about the universe was ignored because the scientific orthodoxy claimed "that *can't* be right" based on nothing but assertion.

  5. Re:Honor by PatrickThomson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I release a ball and it goes up, the first thing I check for is the helium balloon attached with string. Then, I check to see if the ball itself is full of helium. Then, after a few more checks, I get people in to go "oh yeah, huh, it does go up.", but not before discounting the obvious boring explanations . Failure to do otherwise isn't science.

    This is a bit of real science that fell through the cracks because it wasn't exactly repeatable.

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