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LimeWire Brings Darknets To All

An anonymous reader writes "LimeWire's new version lets people create private darknets with contacts on any Jabber server (like GMail or LiveJournal). It's different than the recent p2p darknet announcement because it doesn't use onion routing. Sharing with a friend connects directly to that friend. If you're worried about exposing personal information, LW5 doesn't share documents with the p2p network by default."

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  1. Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought we had gotten past this whole INVITE PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ business years ago.

  2. Darknet != Freedom by onion2k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being anonymous is not the same as being free.

    To that end, using a darknet is actually reducing how free you are because you're not standing up to the authority or laws you're circumventing. Freedom is being able to do what you want to do without having to hide it.

    1. Re:Darknet != Freedom by unixan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Freedom is being able to do what you want to do without having to hide it.

      Hiding is what precedes freedom.

      Otherwise premature openness can get you shot down.

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  3. Re:Great idea... by briggsl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, the social networking society we're in now, where the norm is to accept anyone who 'sends a friend request' will make darknets unworkable for the majority

  4. Re:Great idea... by gravos · · Score: 1, Insightful

    People still fileshare? Everything I want to listen to and watch can be streamed now. Thanks to Hulu and Netflix and iTunes I can get the latest movies and just about everything else! The costs for these activities are no longer prohibitive.

    As for Limewire they are basically forcing the hand of the RIAA/MPAA... With a darknet how can you detect who is sharing what? You can't if you choose your friends wisely.

  5. Re:Great idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, people still fileshare. I like streaming (youtube) but I still want high quality copies on my local machine which I can have access to even when the network/stream service goes down. And filesharing is useful for rare stuff.

  6. Re:Those services are not international by syrinx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...you are guessing that iTunes is Windows-only? Just to be clear, we're talking about the iTunes from Apple, not some other iTunes? ;)

    Netflix is not Windows-only either, btw. I don't know about Hulu.

    Being US-only is a concern though.

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  7. Sounds like a good idea by wjh31 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it's what i actually think it is. Which is private sharing within your own group without others being able to see what's going on. It would only take a modest half dozen or so friends to share thier video collections, and you could have a pretty extensive collection, with some reasonable speeds and redundancy. And by videos i of course mean all those silly videos from when you were drunk that night, definately not those feature length things shown in cinemas.

  8. Re:Great idea... by meist3r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everything I want to listen to and watch can be streamed now. Thanks to Hulu and Netflix and iTunes I can get the latest movies and just about everything else! The costs for these activities are no longer prohibitive.

    Lucky for you, Windows using American. I as a Linux using European can use none of the aforementioned services. Arrrhhh. Off to the bay where they don't geo-judge.

    Segmenting the internet back into region specific chunks is probably the worst thing that happened since MySpace.

  9. Re:Great idea... by Ninnle+Labs,+LLC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Segmenting the internet back into region specific chunks is probably the worst thing that happened since MySpace.

    So you'd rather Hulu and Netflix be sued into bankruptcy for streaming content to places in the world they have no right to do so? Yeah, that'd be a much greater idea...

  10. Re:Great idea... by Tribaal_ch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Where are my mod points when I need them?

  11. Somewhat unimpressed .. by stevied · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So basically it allows encrypted file transfers between people who are communicating on a chat / IM network? Is it me or is that not exactly a huge innovation?

  12. Re:Great idea... by Dorkmaster+Flek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, we'd rather they be able to stream content into other places in the world. I don't give a rats ass about the legal crap. It's their mess, and they need to work it out. Until then, don't expect us to stop going to places like The Pirate Bay to get content we can't stream otherwise.

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  13. Re:Great idea... by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So you'd rather Hulu and Netflix be sued into bankruptcy for streaming content

    You missed his point... he doesn't care what happens to Hulu or Netflix. They don't exist as far as he's concerned.

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  14. Re:Great idea... by FredFredrickson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And filesharing is useful for rare stuff.

    Filesharing on a small darknet may not be useful for rare stuff, unless your friends happen to have it. -1 Downside.

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  15. Re:Those services are not international by horza · · Score: 5, Insightful

    iTunes doesn't work with Linux, as jopsen says Hulu is US only (and the BBC iPlayer is UK only), and Moonlight is never going to gain any traction under Linux. Even Flash has only just arrived for 64-bit computers recently. The only reliable cross-platform and international way to watch movies is to download them via file-sharing.

    Phillip.

  16. Re:Great idea... by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People still fileshare? Everything I want to listen to and watch can be streamed now.

    Yeah, nothing like low-quality, [BUFFERING] media that can suddenly "become unavailable" with no warning! That's the best!

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  17. Re:Great idea... by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The first rule of u*****: never talk about u*****.

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  18. Re:Great idea... by poetmatt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So how's last year's season of movies and independent music artists who are not crap, working out for you? Can't find them on the streaming websites? Enjoying your guns n roses, aerosmith, metallica etc? I'm not saying those are great artists but just easy examples.

    The only way to get the stuff at the real cost of distribution is to instead get it at completely scam-worthy prices online (10$ for a digital CD? 4$ for a movie?) simply because you didn't record it yourself and/or get it off filesharing networks for free, which is what it's truly worth: 0$. Honestly why should you pay later for something that you could have recorded yourself for free?

    whoops.

    Guess you can't do that, because they're all taken down or removed due to licensing issues, or label you a pirate for daring to fileshare.

  19. Re:Great idea... by foniksonik · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm certain that Hulu at least has tried to get international distribution... most likely it is because the organization which holds the rights to that is not interested.... often each country will have a company which has previously negotiated distribution rights for various content. The details of these contracts are likely very convoluted due to some special circumstance.

    I can imagine a scenario where a media company gives some other media company distribution rights to general content so that they can get Brittany Spears concerts approved or so they can get Olympics coverage set up for 4 years in the future, etc.

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  20. Yeah, but... by Crimson+Wing · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...does it still autonomously and secretly download malware in the background?

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  21. Re:Great idea... by Jurily · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Filesharing on a small darknet may not be useful for rare stuff, unless your friends happen to have it. -1 Downside.

    Luckily, noone targets the rare stuff with lawsuits.

  22. Silverlight 2 vs. Moonlight 1 by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Moonlight is never going to gain any traction under Linux.

    And let me guess, somehow this will not be the fault of Linux, and the blame will be squarely leveled at Microsoft.

    It'll be the fault of Microsoft if Microsoft continues to make questionably necessary additions to the Silverlight spec to make the Moonlight developers fall behind, and then continues to push Silverlight app developers to "take advantage" of those additions.