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Timetable App Developer Gets Nastygram From Transit Sydney

mikesd81 writes "ZDNet Australia writes that NSW state corporation RailCorp has threatened a Sydney software developer with legal action if he fails to withdraw a train timetable application that is currently the second-most-popular application in its category in Apple's App Store. Alvin Singh created Transit Sydney after he began teaching himself how to program in Cocoa Mobile. Within days of its Feb 18 release, Singh received a cease and desist notice from Rail Corporation NSW, the government body that administers Sydney's CityRail network. The email states: 'I advise that copyright in all CityRail timetables is owned by RailCorp. ... Any use of these timetables in a manner which breaches copyright by a third party can only occur through the grant of a suitable licence by RailCorp.'" "As a government body, RailCorp information is protected by Crown copyright, a contentious provision in copyright law that has recently been used to block attempts to access information on the location of Victoria's bushfires and even seemingly innocuous information as the locations of public toilets. 'RailCorp's primary concern here is that our customers receive accurate, up-to-date timetable information,' RailCorp spokesperson Paul Rea explained. 'This includes details of service interruptions, special event services, track work and other changes. ... At this stage, it is not possible for RailCorp to grant third-party developers access to our internal passenger information systems. As such, any third-party CityRail timetable application would contain inaccuracies and have the potential to mislead our customers.'"

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  1. Re:No Case Under US Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Advertised train times a fact? In what country is that? Usually, these are pure fiction.

  2. Re:No Case Under US Law by castorvx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because the train operators have been using that damn application!

  3. Re:No Case Under US Law by supernova_hq · · Score: 4, Funny

    Disclaimer: IAAL.

    Holy crap, and actual lawyer on slashdot!!!

  4. Re:No Case Under US Law by Namarrgon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pointing out fine legal distinctions - holy crap, he really is a lawyer on slashdot!!!

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  5. Re:they're not the only ones who lay the hate on by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Funny

    But at least you can get off the train, right? Right?

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  6. Re:Factual train times by failedlogic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did you bring a watch ..... really?! Are you sure they didn't just change the clock at the other end to make it look like you got there on time? ;-) ;-)

  7. No. by JoeBuck · · Score: 4, Funny

    This has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions.

  8. Re:Many stupid-sounding legal issues in Australia? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    [citation ne...

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  9. Re:No Case Under US Law by patch0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    That is obviously a complete lie, you can't have been in the UK if you experienced trains being on time.... Didn't the German accents give away your real location? :)

  10. Re:No Case Under US Law by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 3, Funny

    He used et al - he must be a lawyer :P

    ...or an academic. Actually, he's both :)

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  11. Re:No Case Under US Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh yes, murder is very a popular social movement in Japan, at about 1.1 per 100,000 per year (the U.S. is around 9 per 100K; UK have 1 per 100K.)

    Not likely, so we need to ask you some questions: is this your fantasy? Do you think about murdering people by pushing them in front of trains? When you were a child, was your relationship with your father difficult? How do you feel about your mother?

  12. Re:Many stupid-sounding legal issues in Australia? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess you've never seen any reports about Victorian police then.

    Who cares what the police did in the nineteenth century?

  13. Re:Factual train times by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    How do you handle some jackass blocking the door, thereby preventing the train from leaving until security removes the blockage from the doorway?

    A running start usually works decently.

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  14. Re:No Case Under US Law by mattrumpus · · Score: 2, Funny

    specifically, Information Technology Law and IP Law.

    Yeah, but are you on THEIR side, or OUR side..?

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  15. Re:No Case Under US Law by TeXMaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Being late does not make you a retard.

    Being late once only makes you a tard, you need to be late at least two times to be a REtard.

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  16. Re:Factual train times by JosKarith · · Score: 2, Funny

    How's about high power laser "sensors" - think about it...
    "Blockage detected...coils charging...removing obstruction in 5...4...3..."
    This is Japan after all - they solve everything with lasers over there.

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  17. Re:Factual train times by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's my experience, too. In American bukake, the guys are grunting, high fiving each other, and yelling comments like "take it bitch". In Japanese bukake, the men are very quiet and respectful. You can actually hear the woman crying in shame.

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  18. Legal copyright violation! by argent · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wait a second... "Any use of these timetables in a manner which breaches copyright by a third party can only occur through the grant of a suitable licence by RailCorp."

    What that's saying is that you're only violating their copyright if you get a license to do so.

    Whoever wrote that letter needs to re-take Remedial Passive Voice.

  19. Re:Factual train times by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how often they do that?

    In the Italian part ? Probably all the time.

    In the German part ? Hell, no. There are rules ...

  20. Re:No Case Under US Law by mattwarden · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Other common reasons for trains being late are overcrowding and suicide.

    Incorrect correlation direction.

  21. Re:Factual train times by repvik · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is Japan after all - they solve everything with lasers over there.

    Their attempts at using lasers to improve their extreme suicide rate has thus far been unsuccessful.

  22. Re:No Case Under US Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you ever consider that Japan's is so low because so many of the uncounted murders are from people pushing people onto train tracks, making it look like a suicide?

  23. Re:No Case Under US Law by z80kid · · Score: 4, Funny
    Depends on where.

    The rain delay for trains in Spain occur mainly on the plains.

  24. Re:No Case Under US Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oddly, the suicide rate is much higher than the murder rate in nearly all cases.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OECD_countries_by_suicide_rate

    Thus, the one person who is most likely to do you harm is also the hardest to escape. The only way you can be safe is if you ... kill him.

  25. Re:No Case Under US Law by toriver · · Score: 3, Funny

    Was I talking about rain?

    El Whoosho.

  26. Re:No Case Under US Law by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Funny

    You don't have to Bush-troll anymore. I know it must be a hard habit to break, but he's not in power anymore.

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