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Digital TV Coupon Program Under Way Again

An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from CNet: "Federal regulators said Thursday they are going into 'search and rescue' mode to help the millions of consumers unprepared for the phased transition to digital television, which culminates with the June 12 transition deadline. The millions of consumers waiting for coupons for digital converter box coupons will finally receive them within the next two and a half weeks, thanks to emergency funding for the coupon program provided in the stimulus package, said Bernadette McGuire-Rivera, an administrator for the National Telecommunications and Information Administration. The NTIA is also ratcheting up its outreach to consumers most likely to be unprepared for the transition... FCC commissioners said their agency is also intensifying its outreach, but they acknowledged that while one third of television stations have already dropped their analog signals, the hardest part is yet to come." We previously discussed the DTV coupon program when it ran out of money in January. The $650 million from the stimulus packages adds to the $1.3 billion that's already been spent.

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  1. Re:People who already bought a converter by pushing-robot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If they had no problem buying it with their own money, why should they get a handout?

    Then again, I'm a crazy liberal who thinks that the government should give to the poor, not the rich.

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  2. Tv went blank. by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And nothing of value was lost.

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  3. Re:People who already bought a converter by PachmanP · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they had no problem buying it with their own money, why should they get a handout?

    Then again, I'm a crazy liberal who thinks that the government should give to the poor, not the rich.

    Well I'm a crazy [insert whatever] who wants to know why the hell we're giving handouts for TV for anybody! Nobody will die without American Idol.

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  4. Re:People who already bought a converter by Sporkinum · · Score: 5, Insightful
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  5. Re:Doing the math by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even though I have satellite, I am still very much affected by the DTV transition. For example, in my basement I have a traditional OTA TV that I rely on when there is stormy weather. Now, this wouldn't be a problem but A) I live in the midwest, where, in the spring and summer tornado warnings come out of nowhere and it is imperative I get watches/warnings along with radar so I can know if a tornado is about to strike. B) My satellite does not get great signal when it is storming outside.

    So yes, even though I do not technically "need" a DTV converter box, I am seriously considering buying one for the news coverage during severe weather.

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  6. Re:People who already bought a converter by Skapare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The issue isn't about whether someone can get the money to pay for it. The issue is that the government is making a lot of money selling the spectrum, and part of it was to compensate people for the costs imposed on them.

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  7. Re:People who already bought a converter by YenTheFirst · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But people will die without tornado information, among other things. Yes, radio is an option. When dealing with people, however, sometimes a graphical representation is just much more useful.

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  8. Stimulus package by mattwarden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, can someone explain what the DTV coupon program's funding has to do with stimulating the economy?

    1. Re:Stimulus package by mattwarden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Keynesian theory suggests that private sector decisions can be non-optimal. I don't see how a move out of a government-controlled spectrum by a government-sponsored program fits into that.

      I see a lot of crap in this "stimulus package" that is just an excuse to spend money the government thinks needs to be spent for any variety of reasons.

  9. Bread and circus by kimvette · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I am SO glad that our leaders are dealing with the important issues. I mean, it's not like we have a shitty economy or horrible foreign relations to worry about lately.

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  10. Unlike most govt spending it's NOT a handout by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well I'm a crazy [insert whatever] who wants to know why the hell we're giving handouts for TV for anybody! Nobody will die without American Idol.

    It's not a handout. It's a (partial) reimbursement from the government to the previous users of the bandwidth for seizing the bandwidth and selling it for billions, which went into the treasury.

    The analog television system worked just fine for what it did. A LOT of people bought equipment in the good faith expectation that it would continue to be usable for the equipment's life.

    Then the government decided that, if it forced the TV stations to switch over to digital, they could provide a replacement service that would be better than the existing system (which wastes lots of bandwidth to reduce analog interference), it could re-sieze a lot of that bandwidth and auction it off to other users.

      - The existing broadcasters get replacement bandwidth and can get more use out of it by multiplexing other services into it - which helps them pay for the new equipment.
      - More use gets made of the total bandwidth, thanks to the new services enabled in the auctioned spectrum. So the buyers and their customers are enabled.
      - But the old viewers are hosed. They have to upgrade perfectly good equipment or buy a converter to continue getting the level of service they already bought into. There are a LOT of them, and many of them don't have a lot of spare money to throw at the extra expense.

    So the government is spending PART of the money it got from the auction of the spectrum to pay PART of the cost of the converter boxes for the viewers.

    It's like paying (but less than market rate) for land seized by eminent domain.

    The origin of property rights is making use of and improvements on previously unowned property in the expectation that you can then continue to do so. By that definition, the broadcasters and the viewers had a property right in the spectrum previously used for analog broadcast TV from which they've been evicted by the government for its own profit. So it's reasonable for them to expect payment for their loss and trouble.

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  11. Re:People who already bought a converter by m.ducharme · · Score: 2, Insightful

    but you didn't buy a tv for them, they bought their own tv's. You bought them (a tiny fraction of) a tv converter box.

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  12. LIBERTARIANS: LISTEN CAREFULLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    LIBERTARIANS:

    LISTEN CAREFULLY: The government made a NET GAIN on this transition.

    They sold the spectrum reclaimed from analogue broadcasts for much more than this coupon program costs. It's not donating taxpayer money for TVs, it's compensating people for re-selling THEIR assets (radio spectrum) to private companies, something the government should be doing more often IMHO. And before anyone jumps up and down about how "people should be allowed to broadcast on any channel they choose", realise that no radio communication would work if that were the case - everyone would broadcast over everyone else, no-one would receive the signal they want, and it would be anarchy. There needs to be some authorisation for maintaining radio signals, and as bad as they are, the government are the only ones capable and willing (private enterprises don't have authority over one another, and no market force compels them to maintain the spectrum in the interests of the people).

    Libertarians with mod points, moderate this post to oblivion if you want.

  13. Re:hurry it up, dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I keep seeing stories about this "shortage" and I think the problem is more with how the converters were distributed than a real shortage. The Circuit City where I live priced them at 70% off last weekend and they still had a mountain of them piled up on the floor.

    And the availability of converters last weekend is somehow proof there wasn't a real shortage nine months ago, when my coupons expired?

  14. Re:The coupon program is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Then fucking buy one, you scrounging cunt.